Newbie Looking for First Defense Knife - Page 6

ReaperVelle · January 4th, 2009, 08:54 PM

I havent played with most of what you mentioned...but from my experience stay away from the S&W knives....

alnitak · January 6th, 2009, 01:02 PM

A lot of good replies here, so I won't bother to repeat what's been said. However, I would urge you to really consider why you need the knife. A knife fight is something to be avoided -- no one wins (you WILL be cut) and significant training is required. If you are going to engage in one, then get a longer knife that will provide a reach advantage, and make sure it won't collapse on you during the fight (which is why I LIKE the AutoLAWKS of the M16-14...one less thing to focus on doing). The M16-14 or the M21-14 are good alternatives. The SF versions also provide a real hilt for added protection, and neither is AO. (BTW, I also have a Kershaw Spec Bump -- love it.)

Having said that, you'd be better off with a baseball bat, a collapsible baton, pepper spray, taser, etc. than with a knife.

budokaitd · January 6th, 2009, 03:30 PM

I work in a VA hospital and I'm limited to 3" blades. I went with the Spyderco Native -pocket chainsaw. If you've ever done any knife fighting drills that include drawing your knife when shtf, a fixed blade is much quicker. I'm still having a hard time finding the perfect fixed blade edc knife. The Blackhawk Crucible (by Kelly McCann) is nice, but looks bulky.

psychophipps · January 6th, 2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by budokaitd

I work in a VA hospital and I'm limited to 3" blades. I went with the Spyderco Native -pocket chainsaw. If you've ever done any knife fighting drills that include drawing your knife when shtf, a fixed blade is much quicker. I'm still having a hard time finding the perfect fixed blade edc knife. The Blackhawk Crucible (by Kelly McCann) is nice, but looks bulky.

You might want to try a CRKT Bear Claw. 2 3/8" blade or so, a nice hole for your index finger for control and retention, and a Zytel sheath. Probably getting one for myself soon as I was impressed with what I felt when I tried a few basic drills at the store the last time I held one. Also, 3-4 inches seems to be the magic number for the transfer from "tool" to "weapon" in almost all jurisdictions despite just about everything important you'd want to be taking a hack at in a defensive situation being within 2" or so of the skin.

Texaspaul · January 7th, 2009, 05:32 AM

I really appreciate all the great replies. I also appreciate the advice of "stay out of a knife fight." I fully agree with that and avoid potential confrontations like the plague. It truly is a last resort (better than my bare hands) if a life or death situation arises.

Plus, after about a month of carrying a Gerber EVO I have found how useful it is for opening packages/boxes/etc!

SleazyRider · January 9th, 2009, 04:22 PM

Can't beat a SOG. Check out the Blink, available from Dick's; or my favorite, the Twitch or Twitch XL. The Blink doubles as a money clip, so it may be more socially acceptable to the uninformed.

mercop · January 9th, 2009, 07:10 PM

Being attacked with and edged weapon....probable. Being in a knife fight...improbable.

community · January 12th, 2009, 05:13 PM

welcome to the forum from Michigan

Laxer · February 7th, 2009, 01:54 PM

The best fixed blade knives for concealment are hideaway knives, they are very sharp, concealable and best for personal defense. There is also a variety of carry options, just dont use it as a neck knife.. My favorite is the tigerclaw.

Laxer · February 7th, 2009, 01:55 PM

Sorry forgot to put a link..

HideAwayKnife

January 6th, 2009, 01:02 PM	#52
alnitak Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 258	A lot of good replies here, so I won't bother to repeat what's been said. However, I would urge you to really consider why you need the knife. A knife fight is something to be avoided -- no one wins (you WILL be cut) and significant training is required. If you are going to engage in one, then get a longer knife that will provide a reach advantage, and make sure it won't collapse on you during the fight (which is why I LIKE the AutoLAWKS of the M16-14...one less thing to focus on doing). The M16-14 or the M21-14 are good alternatives. The SF versions also provide a real hilt for added protection, and neither is AO. (BTW, I also have a Kershaw Spec Bump -- love it.) Having said that, you'd be better off with a baseball bat, a collapsible baton, pepper spray, taser, etc. than with a knife. Last edited by alnitak; January 6th, 2009 at 02:17 PM..

January 9th, 2009, 04:22 PM	#56
SleazyRider Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Middletown, New York Posts: 41	Twitch XL Can't beat a SOG. Check out the Blink, available from Dick's; or my favorite, the Twitch or Twitch XL. The Blink doubles as a money clip, so it may be more socially acceptable to the uninformed.

January 9th, 2009, 07:10 PM	#57
mercop Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PA Posts: 605	Being attacked with and edged weapon....probable. Being in a knife fight...improbable. __________________ 2010 MCS Calander http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgb7wjh3_299f8tncbcz

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January 4th, 2009, 08:54 PM	#51
ReaperVelle Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: US - Mass Posts: 46	I havent played with most of what you mentioned...but from my experience stay away from the S&W knives....

January 6th, 2009, 03:30 PM	#53
budokaitd Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boone County, MO Posts: 102	I work in a VA hospital and I'm limited to 3" blades. I went with the Spyderco Native -pocket chainsaw. If you've ever done any knife fighting drills that include drawing your knife when shtf, a fixed blade is much quicker. I'm still having a hard time finding the perfect fixed blade edc knife. The Blackhawk Crucible (by Kelly McCann) is nice, but looks bulky.

January 7th, 2009, 05:32 AM	#55
Texaspaul Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 27	I really appreciate all the great replies. I also appreciate the advice of "stay out of a knife fight." I fully agree with that and avoid potential confrontations like the plague. It truly is a last resort (better than my bare hands) if a life or death situation arises. Plus, after about a month of carrying a Gerber EVO I have found how useful it is for opening packages/boxes/etc!

January 12th, 2009, 05:13 PM	#58
community Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: white lake Posts: 896	welcome to the forum from Michigan

February 7th, 2009, 01:54 PM	#59
Laxer Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 24	The best fixed blade knives for concealment are hideaway knives, they are very sharp, concealable and best for personal defense. There is also a variety of carry options, just dont use it as a neck knife.. My favorite is the tigerclaw.

February 7th, 2009, 01:55 PM	#60
Laxer Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 24	Sorry forgot to put a link.. HideAwayKnife