Wasp & hornet spray - Page 2

sniper58 · June 21st, 2009, 08:51 PM

This stuff http://www.wmmg.com/pdf/msds/WaspFre...MSDS_PRESS.pdf is an oil-based product. Granted, it's a bit stronger than the OTC stuff at Wal-Mart, but it would adjust someone's attitude in a hurry. Any idea of the liability issues? Getting sprayed while committing a crime will probably work in the BG's favor (in many states). Neat idea though!

Thanis · June 21st, 2009, 09:24 PM

I have had a lot of sucess with the poison-free / mint sprays. Well, on wasps, hornets, and yellow jackets. Not sure about 2 legged creatures, but I was missed a little once, and it did a number on me for a second. Can't imgine what a full spray would do. Maybe the same light stun, or maybe worse.

Arko · June 21st, 2009, 10:12 PM

Hmm..
FWIW, I just looked up the MSDS sheets for a few.
Seems the eye irritation is listed as "moderate", but respiration can cause acute health effects.

Here's a link to Raid's: http://www.jandrsupply.com/cspshop/H...RK%2094898.pdf

I just wonder if there might be some increased civil liability for using something like this? Especially if it should happen to come out that was a planned weapon?

Hopyard · June 21st, 2009, 10:46 PM

Just based on my experience using wasp spray on the real thing, and sometimes getting some back in my face, I am not willing to try that out in a real emergency.

My guess, if it were really bad, they wouldn't let it on the market for general use.

You might get a momentary distraction out of it; but unless followed quickly with a cigarette lighter, I don't think you'll get some real SD.

United93 · June 21st, 2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hopyard

You might get a momentary distraction out of it; but unless followed quickly with a cigarette lighter, I don't think you'll get some real SD.

Good point. IMO, this sort of thing should not be relied on as a 'fight stopper'. As a distraction, it might be better than nothing...

semperfi.45 · June 21st, 2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by light

After reading the following post elsewhere, I'm curious now.

Read it on SNOPES?

How about ABC news story

Pistology · June 22nd, 2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crzy4guns

Seriously, this just might be the ticket for those urban areas where pepper spray and Mace are banned (Chicago?, New York?, L.A.?).

LA doesn't ban pepper spray.

yankeeman · June 22nd, 2009, 12:47 AM

Im working as an exterminator right now, one thing to consider is that all pesticides that I have ever looked at have warning labels that it is a violation of federal law to use it in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. Kind of dumb but the potential is there for problems in todays society.

On a different note, guess what the best thing for bees wasps and anything of the sort is?????? Plain ol' dish soap and water. Mix a little in a spray bottle and spray the hive and they dont even get mad. Just fall down dead on the spot. Somehow the soap allows the water to be absorbed straight into their bodies versus plain water and they drown almost instantly. Pretty cool!!

hudsonvalley · June 22nd, 2009, 08:17 AM

How about Gun Scrub cleaner....?

crzy4guns · June 22nd, 2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pistology

LA doesn't ban pepper spray.

Good, and I am surprised as Los Angeles is in the state of Kalifornia.

June 21st, 2009, 08:51 PM	#11
sniper58 Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,231	This stuff http://www.wmmg.com/pdf/msds/WaspFre...MSDS_PRESS.pdf is an oil-based product. Granted, it's a bit stronger than the OTC stuff at Wal-Mart, but it would adjust someone's attitude in a hurry. Any idea of the liability issues? Getting sprayed while committing a crime will probably work in the BG's favor (in many states). Neat idea though! __________________ Tim BE PREPARED - Noah didn't build the Ark when it was raining! The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Thomas Jefferson ________ NRA Life Member

June 21st, 2009, 09:24 PM	#12
Thanis Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,699	I have had a lot of sucess with the poison-free / mint sprays. Well, on wasps, hornets, and yellow jackets. Not sure about 2 legged creatures, but I was missed a little once, and it did a number on me for a second. Can't imgine what a full spray would do. Maybe the same light stun, or maybe worse. __________________ NRA Member S&W 642 (no-lock) with .38 Spl +P 135 GR Gold GDHP Glock G31 & G33 with .357 Sig 125 GR. SXT Winchester Ranger

June 21st, 2009, 10:12 PM	#13
Arko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cleveland, TN Posts: 527	Hmm.. FWIW, I just looked up the MSDS sheets for a few. Seems the eye irritation is listed as "moderate", but respiration can cause acute health effects. Here's a link to Raid's: http://www.jandrsupply.com/cspshop/H...RK%2094898.pdf I just wonder if there might be some increased civil liability for using something like this? Especially if it should happen to come out that was a planned weapon? __________________ "Don't Tread on Me"

June 22nd, 2009, 08:17 AM	#19
hudsonvalley Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: lower hudson valley ny Posts: 620	How about Gun Scrub cleaner....? __________________ Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. ---Ronald Reagan

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June 21st, 2009, 10:46 PM	#14
Hopyard VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: College Station Posts: 2,743	Just based on my experience using wasp spray on the real thing, and sometimes getting some back in my face, I am not willing to try that out in a real emergency. My guess, if it were really bad, they wouldn't let it on the market for general use. You might get a momentary distraction out of it; but unless followed quickly with a cigarette lighter, I don't think you'll get some real SD.

June 22nd, 2009, 12:47 AM	#18
yankeeman Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 87	Im working as an exterminator right now, one thing to consider is that all pesticides that I have ever looked at have warning labels that it is a violation of federal law to use it in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. Kind of dumb but the potential is there for problems in todays society. On a different note, guess what the best thing for bees wasps and anything of the sort is?????? Plain ol' dish soap and water. Mix a little in a spray bottle and spray the hive and they dont even get mad. Just fall down dead on the spot. Somehow the soap allows the water to be absorbed straight into their bodies versus plain water and they drown almost instantly. Pretty cool!!