Wasp & hornet spray - Page 3

Rob72 · June 22nd, 2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hudsonvalley

How about Gun Scrub cleaner....?

Yeah, TCE will take the "oomph" out of someone. It's even flammable...

RLS913 · June 23rd, 2009, 06:00 AM

Ran this by a friend in the Michigan State Police…
Wasp spray can be lethal.
It’s illegal to carry wasp spray as a “Self Defense Spray” in Michigan. If used, even in self defense, you will be charged at the least with a “misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both.” or a maximum of (depending upon the circumstances) felony murder.
The only legal form of “Self Defense Spray” in Michigan is outlined by state law; THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT) Act 328 of 193, Section 750.224d:

Michigan Legislature - Section 750.224d

According to my friend, carrying wasp spray or mace as a "Self Defense Spray" can also lead to revocation of your CCW in Michigan

Rob72 · June 23rd, 2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RLS913

Wasp spray can be lethal.

Read a State AG with an agenda. If one has severe, chronic "acute respiratory distress syndrome", OC/Mace can theoretically be lethal. Lethality is not best determined by studying the effects of materials being abused as inhalant intoxicants.

Not downplaying the "potential legal consequences", just a note to evaluate that legislative statement with a bit of reality

RemMod597 · June 23rd, 2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TerriLi

I've had that stuff in my eyes. It burns like heck, not as bad or as long as mace though. Go with mace, because mace works on me.
To clarify I went through the tear gas chamber and literally was unaffected, I thought it was some kind of big joke till I looked at the other guys, nope it just doesn't affect me.

I was our unit's NBC NCO and ran our gas chamber exercises without using a mask myself. The stuff just didn't affect me much. Newbies made a lot of assumptions based on that, and were very "surprised"

UnklFungus · June 23rd, 2009, 03:36 PM

From Snopes.com
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Wasp spray vs. pepper spray - snopes.com

ErikGr7 · June 23rd, 2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by light

I did a search here & found only a couple references to using Wasp & Hornet Spray as a defense tool.
After reading the following post elsewhere, I'm curious now.
Anyone herd of actual results of this stuff in the eyes? Probably not much testing going on

"I have a friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area who was concerned about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob them when they were counting the collection. She asked the local police department about using pepper spray and they recommended to her that she get a can of wasp spray instead. The wasp spray, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more accurate, while with the pepper spray they have to get too close to you and could overpower you. The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk in the office and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper spray would.. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection. Thought this was interesting and might be of use..."

What if it blinds the BG's and they sue you? I still would stick to good old fashion OC as it's intended for self defense.

paul34 · June 23rd, 2009, 04:33 PM

If you have encompassing castle doctrine law, you are free from liabilities from the criminal or the criminal's family within reason - provided you were engaged in legitimate, verified self defense. Of course, unfortunately many places do not allow such actions for law-abiding citizens, so you're certainly right to be concerned in those places.

Siafu · June 23rd, 2009, 04:50 PM

I use this stuff and it shoots a powerful stream over 20 feet. It is 1 shot 1 kill product. Worth every penny.

Bee Bopper Wasp and Hornet Spray

light · June 24th, 2009, 12:01 AM

Starting to sound like something that could be used mainly if it was the best thing you happened to have on hand when not feeling the need to go so far as using a gun... say in your yard.

paul34 · June 24th, 2009, 01:09 AM

I'm a whimp. I really, really, really, really hate stinging insects anyway. Almost more than an intruder. They really make me super nervous.

June 23rd, 2009, 06:00 AM	#22
RLS913 New Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1	Wasp spray: check local laws or lose your CCW Ran this by a friend in the Michigan State Police… Wasp spray can be lethal. It’s illegal to carry wasp spray as a “Self Defense Spray” in Michigan. If used, even in self defense, you will be charged at the least with a “misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both.” or a maximum of (depending upon the circumstances) felony murder. The only legal form of “Self Defense Spray” in Michigan is outlined by state law; THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT) Act 328 of 193, Section 750.224d: Michigan Legislature - Section 750.224d According to my friend, carrying wasp spray or mace as a "Self Defense Spray" can also lead to revocation of your CCW in Michigan

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June 23rd, 2009, 03:36 PM	#25
UnklFungus Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montana Posts: 238	From Snopes.com snopes.com: Wasp Spray Snopes Forum Wasp spray vs. pepper spray - snopes.com

June 23rd, 2009, 04:33 PM	#27
paul34 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 761	If you have encompassing castle doctrine law, you are free from liabilities from the criminal or the criminal's family within reason - provided you were engaged in legitimate, verified self defense. Of course, unfortunately many places do not allow such actions for law-abiding citizens, so you're certainly right to be concerned in those places.

June 23rd, 2009, 04:50 PM	#28
Siafu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East Jahunga Posts: 957	I use this stuff and it shoots a powerful stream over 20 feet. It is 1 shot 1 kill product. Worth every penny. Bee Bopper Wasp and Hornet Spray

June 24th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#29
light Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: winston-salem, NC Posts: 93	Starting to sound like something that could be used mainly if it was the best thing you happened to have on hand when not feeling the need to go so far as using a gun... say in your yard.

June 24th, 2009, 01:09 AM	#30
paul34 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 761	I'm a whimp. I really, really, really, really hate stinging insects anyway. Almost more than an intruder. They really make me super nervous.