Man carrying folder gets arrested - Page 3

Jmac00 · June 28th, 2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by steyrsdad

knives are tools inless used other wise

yep, just like a hammer or baseball bat.

Now that I think about it, is there any law concerning an AX. Maybe I'll just start carrying a short handle ax

HKR · June 28th, 2009, 07:57 PM

I carry a Delica 4 locally.
If I go to unfamiliar areas of the state or any of the metro counties/large cities then it stays in the car. In Georgia any and all cities/counties can have their own ordinances regarding knives and researching them isn't always easy.

You can drive through a small town with a population under 2k and stop for a bite to eat. The two (or three or whatever) handguns you are carrying will be legal, but that folder in your pocket with a blade over two inches may not be.

wolfshead · June 28th, 2009, 10:54 PM

So they would let us carry a concealed handgun with a permit and not a knife?

mr.stuart · June 28th, 2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob O

Weapons laws can be tricky, they can be very different from state to state and also from municipality to municipality.

Some states have full preemption, which means that the state law trumps any municipal law. Some states don't have preemption or only have partial preemption.

I don't know about Ohio, but as an example, a state that has no preemption could allow a concealed knife with a 6" blade by state law, but the town you're in may have a dumb law that only allows blades under 1". This could be the problem in the situation that started this thread.

Bobo

I have read that even in Texas this can be true, as far as a municipality can enforce a different law. I am getting to the point that I believe we have more to fear from the law than the criminals.

Eagleks · June 29th, 2009, 12:20 AM

Let's see..... figure out a way to pay an attorney, or risking being found guilty when I"m not and doing some time..... gee.... I think I would find a way to get and pay an attorney.

DA's won't dismiss it just because he's not guilty. I've seen DA's with video evidence the person was 30 miles away and receipts from a store showing it , who didn't drop the charges. Why ? Because it would mess up their stats and effect their merit raises. However, if a Judge throws it out, then it doesn't effect their merit raise and isn't a mark against them. ... not their fault the Judge threw it out. If you are looking for a DA to be looking for honesty and justice, look elsewhere... at least around here.

mr.stuart · June 29th, 2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Eagleks

Let's see..... figure out a way to pay an attorney, or risking being found guilty when I"m not and doing some time..... gee.... I think I would find a way to get and pay an attorney.

DA's won't dismiss it just because he's not guilty. I've seen DA's with video evidence the person was 30 miles away and receipts from a store showing it , who didn't drop the charges. Why ? Because it would mess up their stats and effect their merit raises. However, if a Judge throws it out, then it doesn't effect their merit raise and isn't a mark against them. ... not their fault the Judge threw it out. If you are looking for a DA to be looking for honesty and justice, look elsewhere... at least around here.

Good point.I always got the idea that the DA wants to win. So right and wrong does not matter. The only DA I actually got to view in action,seemed to have some kind of evil air about him. Maybe there are a few decent humans that have this job. I do not get my hopes up.Perhaps the judge is most important in a courtroom.

Chiller2 · June 29th, 2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.stuart

Good point.I always got the idea that the DA wants to win. So right and wrong does not matter. The only DA I actually got to view in action,seemed to have some kind of evil air about him. Maybe there are a few decent humans that have this job. I do not get my hopes up.Perhaps the judge is most important in a courtroom.

I would think their raises would be based on how many cases they won not on how many cases they took to trial If the judge dismiss the case I would think it would look even worse than a jury loss because that shows you don't even know the law and wasted resources on a case with no merit.
It is a least worth the effort you can always get the lawyer if he is an A$$

45XDCCW · July 9th, 2009, 04:23 AM

Wow...I cant believe that...

Rob72 · July 9th, 2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiller2

I would think their raises would be based on how many cases they won not on how many cases they took to trial If the judge dismiss the case I would think it would look even worse than a jury loss because that shows you don't even know the law and wasted resources on a case with no merit.

Nope. Now if they want to go from ADA to DA, that's a bit different...

TucAzRider · July 9th, 2009, 12:58 PM

Something smells fishy,.... Hmmmmm

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June 28th, 2009, 07:57 PM	#22
HKR Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: around here somewhere Posts: 308	I carry a Delica 4 locally. If I go to unfamiliar areas of the state or any of the metro counties/large cities then it stays in the car. In Georgia any and all cities/counties can have their own ordinances regarding knives and researching them isn't always easy. You can drive through a small town with a population under 2k and stop for a bite to eat. The two (or three or whatever) handguns you are carrying will be legal, but that folder in your pocket with a blade over two inches may not be.

June 29th, 2009, 12:20 AM	#25
Eagleks Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,686	Let's see..... figure out a way to pay an attorney, or risking being found guilty when I"m not and doing some time..... gee.... I think I would find a way to get and pay an attorney. DA's won't dismiss it just because he's not guilty. I've seen DA's with video evidence the person was 30 miles away and receipts from a store showing it , who didn't drop the charges. Why ? Because it would mess up their stats and effect their merit raises. However, if a Judge throws it out, then it doesn't effect their merit raise and isn't a mark against them. ... not their fault the Judge threw it out. If you are looking for a DA to be looking for honesty and justice, look elsewhere... at least around here.