Unarmed Combat and Martial Arts - Page 3

NY27 · July 7th, 2009, 07:30 AM

I have a black belt in Kenpo Karate. I have been training since 1987. I taught for many years. Now I teach defensive tactics to the guys in my PD. I chose my school because the owner didn't give out black belts like hot cakes. There were very few black belts in my school.

It has definately helped me in my law enforcement career. It has instilled great confidence. Yet, I never underestimete anybody. The head instructor of my studio is a very unassuming man, but deadly.

Holger · July 7th, 2009, 09:08 AM

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for about 2 years. Earned a blue belt and competed in a couple tourneys before my son was born two years ago. I'd really like to get back in it in the near future. I lift weights regularly and was always in pretty good shape, but BJJ got me in REALLY good shape and taught me a lot.

Most fights are going to the ground. Having a solid grappling background will come in handy. I think if you add some boxing (did that in college) and Muay Thai in there, you'll be pretty much set for unarmed combat.

Unarmed and against one attacker. I don't care who you are or what you study, anyone will be seriously challenged against two committed, even semi-trained adversaries. Three? Forget it...you will likely get the hell beat out of you if they even show one ounce of committing to the fight.

2edgesword · July 7th, 2009, 09:30 AM

I began training in Jiu-Jitsu and Eskrima at the same time so the empty hand and weapons training all sort of blended together. The weapons training helps tremendous to develop empty hand speed, coordination and learning to working around your center.

dukalmighty · July 7th, 2009, 10:08 AM

I have black sneakers in Run Like Hell

MinistrMalic · July 7th, 2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dukalmighty

I have black sneakers in Run Like Hell

Love it...but of course, the question becomes what happens when you can't run? What if you are in a place where your exits are blocked and the only option is to fight?

We like to say in kenpo that physical violence is a last resort, and I mean that with my whole heart. The biggest lesson we train with all the time is SA, and staying out of situations that lead to physical confrontations. Especially when I am helping with the little kids and junior students, GETTING AWAY is a primary tactic.

For the same reason that I carry, though, I need to be prepared for the event that I cannot avoid a close-quarters physical confrontation. And that is why I study martial arts.

Paco · July 7th, 2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by United93

ExSoldier - Krav Maga is an Israeli martial art.

Yup, it teaches you to hurt the other guy more and faster than they can hurt you. I asked my TKD instructor how he likes his class and his first response was to show me his knuckles, and then grinned.

SouthPaw504 · July 7th, 2009, 04:29 PM

I wouldn't put much weight in various belts. While there are many quality schools, there are so many more other schools that simply hand out belts. Started off with TKD in 1986. Instructor was a former Army drill instructor. Moved in 1996 and found a traditional Japanese jujutsu school on campus. Trained there 'til 2000. Moved again and found another traditional Japanese jujutsu school. The dojo was small, but I loved it. Instructor focused on all aspects of bushido; I learned shakuhachi (flute), shodo (Japanese calligraphy), kenjutsu (sword), and many other aspects of budo. All are great tools for personal development. Perhaps not so much in a modern street fight. Moved again in 2005. Found a Krav Maga school. Love it. If you're looking for a school to train in self defense, I couldn't recommend Krav Maga any higher. Various training drills in aggression, multiple attackers, SA, defense against weapons, how to recover from the ground, etc. It is a modern combat system. You WILL get a workout and achieve some level of fitness if you choose to train. The joke I have with friends I convince to try it out is that if you have to puke, try to make it to the door first. The first class is often quite a shock to most people, regardless of how in shape they may think they are. I was "on vacation" for the first few months after I moved, so I was hitting the gym and running 3 miles every day. That did not prepare me for the some of the agression drills.

With any art, it's about how much you put into it.

luvmy40 · July 7th, 2009, 05:33 PM

I started studying Krav Maga at a school that claimed to be an MMA studio about six years ago. I also attended their "MMA" sessions. I soon realized that it was a black belt factory that picked up the Krav credentials.(the MMA classes were basically American TKD with some grappling added) It was great fitness training and, for a while seemed to be serious about the Krav. They dropped from the Krav Maga charter after about a year an now call it "Combat skills Technique" training. I no longer attend.

I had the honor of meeting a young Air Force NCO while TDY at Sheppard AB who taught Muy Thai and BJJ. I learned more from him in 3 months than I did in a year at the above mentioned school.

While in Wichita Falls I also had the privilege of sitting in on a couple Sayoc Kali sessions. Not that I can consider this any real training in the discipline, but it certainly opened my eyes to the world of offensive/defensive knife fighting.

All in all, I have enough training to know that I am woefully under trained in unarmed combat. Against someone with no training I would probably be able to extricate myself from danger. (I should also be able to recognize if any antagonist has real skills and retreat to a defensive firing position accordingly! LOL)

Tombstone55 · July 7th, 2009, 05:46 PM

I have been skillfully trained in Tyquanchucknorrisdo. After many years in the dojo I feel confident in my abilities as a lethal weapon. I have spent many nights training with my sensei Mr Miyagi. Most people respect me but all fear me.

luvmy40 · July 7th, 2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone55

I have been skillfully trained in Tyquanchucknorrisdo. After many years in the dojo I feel confident in my abilities as a lethal weapon. I have spent many nights training with my sensei Mr Miyagi. Most people respect me but all fear me.

Ahhso Glassahoppa, You have truery matsad tha art of Bullshido!

July 7th, 2009, 07:30 AM	#21
NY27 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NY Posts: 1,244	I have a black belt in Kenpo Karate. I have been training since 1987. I taught for many years. Now I teach defensive tactics to the guys in my PD. I chose my school because the owner didn't give out black belts like hot cakes. There were very few black belts in my school. It has definately helped me in my law enforcement career. It has instilled great confidence. Yet, I never underestimete anybody. The head instructor of my studio is a very unassuming man, but deadly. __________________ It is better to have your gun and not need it, than to need it and not have it. 2012

July 7th, 2009, 10:08 AM	#24
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July 7th, 2009, 05:33 PM	#28
luvmy40 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 348	I started studying Krav Maga at a school that claimed to be an MMA studio about six years ago. I also attended their "MMA" sessions. I soon realized that it was a black belt factory that picked up the Krav credentials.(the MMA classes were basically American TKD with some grappling added) It was great fitness training and, for a while seemed to be serious about the Krav. They dropped from the Krav Maga charter after about a year an now call it "Combat skills Technique" training. I no longer attend. I had the honor of meeting a young Air Force NCO while TDY at Sheppard AB who taught Muy Thai and BJJ. I learned more from him in 3 months than I did in a year at the above mentioned school. While in Wichita Falls I also had the privilege of sitting in on a couple Sayoc Kali sessions. Not that I can consider this any real training in the discipline, but it certainly opened my eyes to the world of offensive/defensive knife fighting. All in all, I have enough training to know that I am woefully under trained in unarmed combat. Against someone with no training I would probably be able to extricate myself from danger. (I should also be able to recognize if any antagonist has real skills and retreat to a defensive firing position accordingly! LOL) __________________ TANSTAAFL The best things in life are not free. They are paid for with the blood of brave men and women! M&P Forum Ohioans For Concealed Carry Holsters

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July 7th, 2009, 09:08 AM	#22
Holger Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 260	Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for about 2 years. Earned a blue belt and competed in a couple tourneys before my son was born two years ago. I'd really like to get back in it in the near future. I lift weights regularly and was always in pretty good shape, but BJJ got me in REALLY good shape and taught me a lot. Most fights are going to the ground. Having a solid grappling background will come in handy. I think if you add some boxing (did that in college) and Muay Thai in there, you'll be pretty much set for unarmed combat. Unarmed and against one attacker. I don't care who you are or what you study, anyone will be seriously challenged against two committed, even semi-trained adversaries. Three? Forget it...you will likely get the hell beat out of you if they even show one ounce of committing to the fight.

July 7th, 2009, 09:30 AM	#23
2edgesword Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York Posts: 397	I began training in Jiu-Jitsu and Eskrima at the same time so the empty hand and weapons training all sort of blended together. The weapons training helps tremendous to develop empty hand speed, coordination and learning to working around your center.

July 7th, 2009, 04:29 PM	#27
SouthPaw504 New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5	I wouldn't put much weight in various belts. While there are many quality schools, there are so many more other schools that simply hand out belts. Started off with TKD in 1986. Instructor was a former Army drill instructor. Moved in 1996 and found a traditional Japanese jujutsu school on campus. Trained there 'til 2000. Moved again and found another traditional Japanese jujutsu school. The dojo was small, but I loved it. Instructor focused on all aspects of bushido; I learned shakuhachi (flute), shodo (Japanese calligraphy), kenjutsu (sword), and many other aspects of budo. All are great tools for personal development. Perhaps not so much in a modern street fight. Moved again in 2005. Found a Krav Maga school. Love it. If you're looking for a school to train in self defense, I couldn't recommend Krav Maga any higher. Various training drills in aggression, multiple attackers, SA, defense against weapons, how to recover from the ground, etc. It is a modern combat system. You WILL get a workout and achieve some level of fitness if you choose to train. The joke I have with friends I convince to try it out is that if you have to puke, try to make it to the door first. The first class is often quite a shock to most people, regardless of how in shape they may think they are. I was "on vacation" for the first few months after I moved, so I was hitting the gym and running 3 miles every day. That did not prepare me for the some of the agression drills. With any art, it's about how much you put into it.

July 7th, 2009, 05:46 PM	#29
Tombstone55 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Paradise Posts: 144	I have been skillfully trained in Tyquanchucknorrisdo. After many years in the dojo I feel confident in my abilities as a lethal weapon. I have spent many nights training with my sensei Mr Miyagi. Most people respect me but all fear me.