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Defensive Knives & Other Weapons Most people that carry a gun also carry a knife or other weapon as a backup. Finding a good blade is often harder than finding a good pistol or revolver.

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Old July 23rd, 2009, 11:07 PM   #11
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As a current resident of the greater San Antonio area... I can confirm that this is indeed true. It is a "city ordinance" that states that any locking blade is prohibited in city limits. I can't remember where I found it on an official website, but it is true...

From what I've heard, they don't proactively enforce it, but will tack it onto any other things they would stop you for. I'm not willing to find out, so I just carry fixed blades. :)
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Old July 24th, 2009, 03:10 AM   #12
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I have my Chl and can carry as many pistols concealed as I can hide and walk with but am subject to arrest for a little fixed blade boot knife, neck knife, etc. Strange but true.
Rexter, I'll save him the time looking it up............

Depends on what the "little" fixed blade boot or neck knife are exactly.
Illegal knife carry is under the same provisions as carrying a handgun without a CHL. You may carry one under the same conditions/places that you can carry a handgun without the CHL (also for carrying a club/asp/baton):
Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control.

for definition:
6) "Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard;
(D) bowie knife;
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.



then there's the prohibited weapons, prohibited weapons are NO-NOs anywhere
Sec. 46.05. PROHIBITED WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs, or sells:
(5) a switchblade knife

definition of switchblade:
Sec. 46.01. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
(11) "Switchblade knife" means any knife that has a blade that folds, closes, or retracts into the handle or sheath, and that:
(A) opens automatically by pressure applied to a button or other device located on the handle; or
(B) opens or releases a blade from the handle or sheath by the force of gravity or by the application of centrifugal force.

so you may have a boot or neck knife as long as its not a switchblade, not a double edge, not an obvious throwing knife, and not longer than 5 1/2 inches
that leaves a lot of options for carrying a blade, there are a ton of them out there
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Old July 24th, 2009, 08:58 AM   #13
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From dictionary.com

dag⋅ger  /ˈdægər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [dag-er] Show IPA
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–noun
1. a short, swordlike weapon with a pointed blade and a handle, used for stabbing.
2. Also called obelisk. Printing. a mark (†) used esp. for references.

–verb (used with object) 3. to stab with or as if with a dagger.
4. Printing. to mark with a dagger.

—Idiom5. look daggers at, to look at angrily, threateningly, or with hate.



dirk  /dɜrk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [durk] Show IPA
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–noun 1. a dagger, esp. of the Scottish Highlands.

–verb (used with object) 2. to stab with a dirk.




sti⋅let⋅to  /stɪˈlɛtoʊ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sti-let-oh] Show IPA noun, plural -tos, -toes, verb, -toed, -to⋅ing.
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–noun 1. a short dagger with a blade that is thick in proportion to its width.
2. a pointed instrument for making eyelet holes in needlework.

–verb (used with object) 3. to stab or kill with a stiletto.





pon⋅iard  /ˈpɒnyərd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [pon-yerd] Show IPA
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–noun 1. a small, slender dagger.

–verb (used with object) 2. to stab with a poniard.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 07:32 PM   #14
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I've never heard of this situation in San Antonio... Is it a city ordinance?... I've carried lockback knives there for years....
Yes, it is a city ordinance. I lost the link when my previous laptop bit the dust, but a search should reveal it. It was first passed in 1959, but the city government took action more recently to confirm that is is still enforceable. Of course, violating a city ordinance is a mere Class C misdemeanor, but the confiscation part would surely suck, especially if you got it back with evidence markings scribed into it. Bottom line: Don't carry your folder clipped in a visible spot, and don't carry anything you can't afford to lose. OTOH, I have heard SAPD does not rigidly enforce this, especially against respectable-appearing tourists.

I have relatives in San Antonio. My BIL told me, that with SATX's massive gang problems, there is no way the city council will rescind any tool that SAPD can use against gang bangers. He said SAPD officers will usually just give a verbal warning, but there is always the officer who is anti-knife, or is having a bad day, so watch out.

FWIW, the ordinance makes exceptions for peace officers, and for a laundry list of activities in which a private citizen may be participating. Until I retire, my badge is my "folding knife permit" when I visit SATX.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 08:55 PM   #15
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Since Texas law states 5.5 for folders and 4.5 for fixed blades, I thought that would overrule city ordinances? Corpus tried something like 3.5 inches for folders, but they had to remove the ordinance for whatever reason.
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Old July 25th, 2009, 01:41 PM   #16
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Since Texas law states 5.5 for folders and 4.5 for fixed blades, I thought that would overrule city ordinances? Corpus tried something like 3.5 inches for folders, but they had to remove the ordinance for whatever reason.
4.5" for fixed blades? Where?
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Thanks for the info. guys...my visits to San Antonio are usually to visit friends in the outlying suburbs. I'll have to remember this next time I visit. Of course being a older gray haired guy has it's benefits at times...
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Sooooo you can't carry a Bowie Knife in Texas,where Jim Bowie died at the Alamo in San Antonio
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Old July 26th, 2009, 04:34 AM   #19
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A Simple Fix

For everywhere else in Texas where state law trumps local, I've elected to carry a Benchmade 610 Rukus.

After doing some initial research I figured either go hard or go home since I'm pretty restricted in my current occupations on where I can carry my 1911.
My other supplemental defense is a SureFire E2D LED Defender.

I did notice that if whipped with appropriate force my folder's blade had enough mass to overcome the AXIS lock that keeps it closed.

That's where #10 TORX and LockTite comes in... and after some simple tuning and a few drops of BreakFree CLP my Rukus keeps it's blade closed even under "gravity" and only opens with sufficient force to the thumb studs.
Oh, and it opens faster than Auto-AXIS.

A simple fix for a potentially awkward problem.

Hope this gives you guys some ideas.
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Sooooo you can't carry a Bowie Knife in Texas,where Jim Bowie died at the Alamo in San Antonio
Nor swords, which some other Alamo defenders presumably carried.
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