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Defensive Knives & Other Weapons Most people that carry a gun also carry a knife or other weapon as a backup. Finding a good blade is often harder than finding a good pistol or revolver.

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Old September 15th, 2009, 05:18 PM   #21
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Maryland, the state that protects the criminals by making criminals out of the victims.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #22
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To bad, so sad.That's what you can get, when you break and enter. Sounds hard, but he put himself in that position and he died.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 05:36 PM   #23
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Maryland, the state that protects the criminals by making criminals out of the victims.
In almost no state is it lawful or allowed/endorsed that a victim may dispatch their victimizer by any and all means the victim deems necessary and appropriate...without regard to regard for human life including that of the victimizer.

Notable exceptions including the state of Texas.

Before laws such as this came to be it was not at all unusual for persons to go from being the victim to the victimizer not just stopping an offender, which is the primary point and focus.
But rather going on to very well documented per law history torture criminals and even unproven _suspected_ criminals as well as to maim them and even kill them outright by all manner of inhumane manner.

Laws such as what MD has now are a direct result of earlier persons not finding it within them self to act as in a _measured_ manner and not go cutting off hands of shoplifters and thiefs (as they still do in countries that we today refer to as being God less and "barbaric") along with whipping, caning, and public hanging of persons for all manner of crimes and slights regardless of specific severity. Lawful imbalance.

It wouldn't take me but a few minutes to locate imagery of as much as in relation to relatively recent US history not even from50 yrs. ago as to how local and state 'law' application had been meted out and pseudo-enforced.

Do not forget how and why things come to be as they are and become.
Also always remember that we as citizens do not have a right to take an eye simply because another may have attempted to take our own. Self defense rights inclusive of castle laws do not work that way, contrary to relatively common assumption and wish it were that way belief.

We generally have a right and lawful allowance to stop a BG, and it ends there.
Once stopped as in the immediate, and no longer a threat, then we are expected to STOP as well in that immediate.

Not to know and understand this can and does result in persons losing their monies if not freedoms too.

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Old September 15th, 2009, 05:51 PM   #24
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+1 zackintosh, I'm *****
+2 InspectorGadget, you can never have enough sword legislation...

bye bye bad guy. it's a shame the criminal justice system is so broken that a home resident was forced to defend himself and his property at 1am in the morning.

The broken criminal justice system keeps revolving a guy like you in and out of the system. You had 29 priors and you pulled a gun on a cop only to have the charges dropped when the cop got pulled for active military duty and couldn't testify.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 06:04 PM   #25
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So how long before Maryland adopts the British sword control laws?
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Old September 15th, 2009, 06:05 PM   #26
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Janq,

Based on your analysis that any additional strikes after the first are beyond what a reasonable person would do. Does that mean that if your using a gun, your only allowed a single shot from it?

I don't buy the argument that the person with the sword in this case, or a gun in another can immediately realize the extent of the damage done to the attacker or whatever you want to call them. Other than lopping off the guys head, or in the case of a gun shot, the person immediately going limp from a nervous system shutdown, it is going to take several seconds at least to determine if they are no longer a threat. During that several seconds when adrenaline is high, an additional trigger pull or sword strike may be very reasonable.

I think this case, based on my very limited knowledge of MD law will more than likely be made regarding the occupant of the home going to investigate the intruder, not the number of strikes by the sword.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 06:09 PM   #27
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What a huge, stinking, disgusting pile of crap!!
I can't believe what this country has come to, or what the laws have brought reasonable people to discuss these days!

You break into the house when people are sleeping, you are dead! You have no rights, no protections, you forfeit EVERYTHING! I am not going to hold back, I am not going to 'measure' my response! You are a threat to my life and I am going to end yours! I am not going to discuss castle doctrine with you, I am not going to discuss maryland laws with you. Not before, not during, not after!
Bang, bang. Bye, bye! End of story!
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So your saying that a guy hears a noise in his garage and goes to check it out,when he opens the door he's attacked by a burglar and makes chop suey out of him,but youi don't consider it self defense.I hope you never sit on a SD jury
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Old September 15th, 2009, 06:37 PM   #29
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Based on your analysis that any additional strikes after the first are beyond what a reasonable person would do. Does that mean that if your using a gun, your only allowed a single shot from it?...
As related to firearms, the answer is maybe.

If the BG in the immediate cases to be a threat.
And by threat I meann a literal real right now active threat...Not oh my he's still standing in my garage and hasn't walked out yet.

In this case the BG was unarmed, which further hurts the victims case as a view.

Sorry. :|

Here is further audio reporting of the event; http://wbal.com/apps/news/articlefil...-Guglielmi.mp3

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Old September 15th, 2009, 06:39 PM   #30
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So your saying that a guy hears a noise in his garage and goes to check it out,when he opens the door he's attacked by a burglar and makes chop suey out of him,but youi don't consider it self defense.I hope you never sit on a SD jury
No, that is not what I'm saying.

Take a breather and then go back and read/re-read my last post as above your own.

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