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Defensive Knives & Other Weapons Most people that carry a gun also carry a knife or other weapon as a backup. Finding a good blade is often harder than finding a good pistol or revolver.

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Old October 12th, 2009, 11:06 PM   #11
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“There is no parent who wants to get a phone call where they hear that their child no longer has two good seeing eyes because there was a scuffle and someone pulled out a knife,” said George Evans, the president of the Christina district’s school board. He defended the decision, but added that the board might adjust the rules when it comes to younger children like Zachary.

Wait, wait, wait........
"child no longer has two good seeing eyes because there was a scuffle and".........

someone pulled out a, ..........I dunno; pen, pencil, crayon, marker, paintbrush, stick, rock, etc, etc,

George Evans, the president of the Christina district’s school board needs to asked about his teachers providing all these eye pokey-outty thingies that are mentioned above to these children.
or, he's just a pencil-pushing beauracrat(sp?), afraid to force someone above him to look at a simple situation and apply simple, common sense.

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Old October 12th, 2009, 11:16 PM   #12
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“There is no parent who wants to get a phone call where they hear that their child no longer has two good seeing eyes because there was a scuffle and someone pulled out a knife,” said George Evans, the president of the Christina district’s school board. He defended the decision, but added that the board might adjust the rules when it comes to younger children like Zachary.

Wait, wait, wait........
"child no longer has two good seeing eyes because there was a scuffle and".........

someone pulled out a, ..........I dunno; pen, pencil, crayon, marker, paintbrush, stick, rock, etc, etc,

George Evans, the president of the Christina district’s school board needs to asked about his teachers providing all these eye pokey-outty thingies that are mentioned above to these children.
or, he's just a pencil-pushing beauracrat(sp?), afraid to force someone above him to look at a simple situation and apply simple, common sense.

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My daughter and her husband are both school psychologists, primarily dealing with elementary and middle schoolers. They say that stabbings with pencils are not-uncommon occurrences and far outnumber any form of edged weapon.
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Old October 12th, 2009, 11:46 PM   #13
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My brother was stabbed with a pencil and you can still see the lead/graphite under his skin. It's like a tiny tattoo.

I sent the following to the school district today:
"Good afternoon,

I just read an article stating that your school district has suspended and sent to reform school a 6 year old for bringing his eating utensil from cub scouts to school. Surely this can't be true, and your school district really didn't send a 6 year old to reform school for bringing his own spoon knife and fork to school.

If it is, unfortunately, true then I'd like to suggest that the school district reconsider it's tortured interpretations of school "safety" and not send a 6 year old to a reformatory environment for something so painfully silly.

(edited out this paragraph to avoid violating DC's no politics rule.)

Personally, I hope this young man ends up in a proper private school that nurtures the community involvement and dedication to education that his young mind has demonstrated and that his experience in your Orwellian institution will lead him to serve his community by encouraging private education, paid for by vouchers of course."

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Old October 12th, 2009, 11:50 PM   #14
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Reason #4,398 why we homeschool...
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Old October 13th, 2009, 12:01 AM   #15
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Let me rephrase that: ...zero-tolerance policies are necessary to continue nurturing WIDESPREAD STUPIDITY!!

Zero tolerance leads to zero thinking. the decisions are already made for the admins and no thinking is required. The kid took an eating utensil to school for lunch. This world is going you know where in a hand basket.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 12:19 AM   #16
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For some reason this story reminds me of about 5 years ago when I was fixing copy machines for a living. I had a machine to fix in the city jail. I handed the front desk guard my bag as I walked through the metal detector. The guard asks "Is there anything in your bag that could be used as a weapon or are you carrying any chemicals?" I said "Yes, just about everything in the bag could be used as a weapon and there are 4 bottles of different chemicals in there" He said "Well, I can't allow you to enter with the bag" I said "Ok, I can't fix your copy machine" I then grabbed my bag and walked out the door.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 02:41 AM   #17
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You can't really fairly blame the administration for this sort of thing; frankly, I don't blame them. Sure, your kids might be little angels and you fully trust them with a pocket knife (or multi-tool) at school. Do you trust the other little kids, or their parents?? I sure as hell don't. Not all kids are angels, and I think that bad blood is bred early...

I remember being 6 and 7, and I also remember a kid a few years older than me named Steven that use to chase me home from the bus stop threatening to pound my head in; surely if he could out run me he'd have tried his damnedest. This kid was seriously messed up in the head. I would be terrified of the thought of this guy carrying a pencil, but I'm glad that he wasn't exactly an "A" student. I am terrified by the thought of that guy's children; hopefully he's incapable of reproduction.

It's unfair to one kid who meant well because he's a good kid and he's getting a month and a half out of class, and I think the punishment is a bit extreme for a kid. It's not like he lugged in a freaking Ka-Bar with the word "DEATH" scratched into the blade's tenifer coat.

The school should reconsider their position, but I think that the mother should also consider alternative educational resources, if possible. But this policy is pretty much standard at any school, public or private, in every state.

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Old October 13th, 2009, 11:29 AM   #18
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Zero tolerance leads to zero thinking.
That's what they want. And it's what they teach.

And they wonder why homeschooling is getting so popular...
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[QUOTE=ccw9mm;1332414] "Weenie-fication" is it, exactly.[QUOTE]

Does anybody have a set of beans to go under the weenie-fication. No Franks, No Beans. No Thoughts, No Freedoms.

Why can't kids be kids. I would understand if the kid was a troubled kid and brought in a dagger,sword,boxcutter. But a spoon,fork and knive that is used for camping thru the Boy scouts. Come on people Where is the malce or intent?

If this was my kid I would be in front of the school board, superintentant of school and if need be in front of a judge in the court house doing what ever was needed to that they would let me kid back in school just to get rid of the father.
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2nd day of kindergarten for my son and we get a call from the vice principal. He informs us that our son said to another kid “I’m going to kill your dad with my dad’s knife.” The kid went home and told their parent who came in to the school and raised a stink. The VP pulled our son out and talked to him etc until he cried and didn’t want to go back to school for a couple weeks. Our son said the kid was pushing him around and that he didn’t say that. I’m sure the truth is somewhere in the middle. Anyway, the teacher now really likes our son and says he’s a great student (he’s a terror at home) even after his rocky start.
The first to report something is always right even if the facts don’t support it. The school never did talk to the other kid and try to find out what really happened.
Not a lot of common sense at the education level.
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