SHTF carbine/long gun for my wife? - Page 3

OD · June 17th, 2006, 11:01 AM

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Short rifles also have flash issues.

Depends on ammo used.

But I agree, everyone should have a shotgun too.

artz · June 17th, 2006, 11:02 AM

The .22 magnum will fit the bill quite nicely. Alot of people think its a low life cartridge. Not so ! Especially in a long gun. Ammo is relatively cheap and virtually anywhere in the U.S., stock more quantity in smaller storage area. Did I mention...what recoil ?
Taurus makes a .22 mag in a pump. The same pump that Rossi had put out. The lil' carbine even comes apart into 2 pieces for storage or travel. No need for magazine. Rifle is tube fed.

soonerjh · June 18th, 2006, 12:31 AM

how about a Hi-Point 995 Carbine? 9mm, 10 round mag, lightweight. They don't have the bad rep as the handguns do, some reviews were good. I have seen these at gunshows for 150.00 used, right under 200.00 new. I only know of one person that has one and he says it shoots great, I haven't shot it but I need to catch up with him and try it out!

'75scout · June 18th, 2006, 12:56 PM

I would recommend the Kel-Tec Sub2000. I'd get on in 40cal, but that is just because thats the caliber I am now using. Also don't rule out a 12 guage shottie. A Remington 870 with an 18" barrel and non-extended mag is pretty light. I must recommend a fine recoil reducing product from Knoxx. Knoxx makes several different stocks with recoil absorbing devices built in. The have several different styles for Remington and Mossberg.

I have a remington 870 with their Compstock added. This is a regular style shotgun stock but absorbs nearly half of the recoil. Makes shooting 2 3/4" 1oz slugs and 00buck feel like a push on the shoulder. They also make a tactical AR style stock that is said to absorb nearly 94% of the recoil because it has two seperate recoil reducing devices. Check out their website www.knoxx.com

MattLarson · June 18th, 2006, 03:04 PM

How about the good old M-1 carbine? Definitely fits the light, compact and relatively mild bill.

No idea what they sell for these days, though.

Matt

Colin · June 18th, 2006, 03:20 PM

If I had the money to spare, it would be a CX-Storm in .40cal, it would have an extended barrel for legal reasons, and equipped with a light and laser would be a good defense weapon for the wife, a more mundane one would be a Junior size .410 shotgun.

'75scout · June 19th, 2006, 01:55 AM

The M1 Carbine is also a good choice. Auto Ordinance is currently making new M1s, although I believe it is slightly one the $500 mark.

The M1 is a cool retro gun and I'd love to have one, especially with the paratrooper stock. That and a good M1 Garand and a more modern M1A Socom 16.

PAPACHUCK · June 19th, 2006, 11:29 AM

If you could find one, how about a Marlin Camp Carbine 45. I've got one and it fits the bill perfectly. I would also look at the Ruger PC series, available in 9mm and .40S&W. For home defense usages, I would stay away from typical centerfire rifle rounds.
I also would +1 on the tactical shotgun. A Mossberg 500A or Rem.870 in 12ga. loaded with low recoil buckshot should work as well.

absit · June 19th, 2006, 03:46 PM

I gotta say, especially for a bug-in, just use a handgun. The ranges fired from will be extremely short, and a pistol cartridge from a carbine is still a pistol cartridge. Either use a handgun or a real rifle, don't get the wimpiness of a handgun cartridge in the bulk of a rifle, that's the worst of both worlds!

OD · June 19th, 2006, 05:07 PM

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Either use a handgun or a real rifle, don't get the wimpiness of a handgun cartridge in the bulk of a rifle, that's the worst of both worlds!

You've never seen the ballistics tables of a .357 or .45 Colt from a carbine length barrel, have ya?

June 17th, 2006, 11:02 AM	#22
artz VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 2,115	The .22 magnum will fit the bill quite nicely. Alot of people think its a low life cartridge. Not so ! Especially in a long gun. Ammo is relatively cheap and virtually anywhere in the U.S., stock more quantity in smaller storage area. Did I mention...what recoil ? Taurus makes a .22 mag in a pump. The same pump that Rossi had put out. The lil' carbine even comes apart into 2 pieces for storage or travel. No need for magazine. Rifle is tube fed. Last edited by artz; June 18th, 2006 at 01:20 AM.

June 18th, 2006, 12:31 AM	#23
soonerjh Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 1,231	how about a Hi-Point 995 Carbine? 9mm, 10 round mag, lightweight. They don't have the bad rep as the handguns do, some reviews were good. I have seen these at gunshows for 150.00 used, right under 200.00 new. I only know of one person that has one and he says it shoots great, I haven't shot it but I need to catch up with him and try it out! __________________ RKBA John

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June 18th, 2006, 12:56 PM	#24
'75scout Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,165	I would recommend the Kel-Tec Sub2000. I'd get on in 40cal, but that is just because thats the caliber I am now using. Also don't rule out a 12 guage shottie. A Remington 870 with an 18" barrel and non-extended mag is pretty light. I must recommend a fine recoil reducing product from Knoxx. Knoxx makes several different stocks with recoil absorbing devices built in. The have several different styles for Remington and Mossberg. I have a remington 870 with their Compstock added. This is a regular style shotgun stock but absorbs nearly half of the recoil. Makes shooting 2 3/4" 1oz slugs and 00buck feel like a push on the shoulder. They also make a tactical AR style stock that is said to absorb nearly 94% of the recoil because it has two seperate recoil reducing devices. Check out their website www.knoxx.com

June 18th, 2006, 03:04 PM	#25
MattLarson Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,489	How about the good old M-1 carbine? Definitely fits the light, compact and relatively mild bill. No idea what they sell for these days, though. Matt

June 18th, 2006, 03:20 PM	#26
Colin Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,385	If I had the money to spare, it would be a CX-Storm in .40cal, it would have an extended barrel for legal reasons, and equipped with a light and laser would be a good defense weapon for the wife, a more mundane one would be a Junior size .410 shotgun.

June 19th, 2006, 01:55 AM	#27
'75scout Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,165	The M1 Carbine is also a good choice. Auto Ordinance is currently making new M1s, although I believe it is slightly one the $500 mark. The M1 is a cool retro gun and I'd love to have one, especially with the paratrooper stock. That and a good M1 Garand and a more modern M1A Socom 16.

June 19th, 2006, 11:29 AM	#28
PAPACHUCK Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sportsmans Paradise Posts: 283	If you could find one, how about a Marlin Camp Carbine 45. I've got one and it fits the bill perfectly. I would also look at the Ruger PC series, available in 9mm and .40S&W. For home defense usages, I would stay away from typical centerfire rifle rounds. I also would +1 on the tactical shotgun. A Mossberg 500A or Rem.870 in 12ga. loaded with low recoil buckshot should work as well.

June 19th, 2006, 03:46 PM	#29
absit Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Davenport, IA Posts: 110	I gotta say, especially for a bug-in, just use a handgun. The ranges fired from will be extremely short, and a pistol cartridge from a carbine is still a pistol cartridge. Either use a handgun or a real rifle, don't get the wimpiness of a handgun cartridge in the bulk of a rifle, that's the worst of both worlds!