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Old November 7th, 2005, 11:18 PM   #81
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Guess I'll start at the top and go down.

The rifle is topped with a low-powered Euro Leupold in Talley QD mounts, with no glowing reticle or any other bells or whistles. Actually, I had wanted an electronic reticle, but it was either that or the 30mm tube, but not both, and I opted for the latter.

I also had a first-generation M1 (the ones on which the turrets turn the opposite way from the way they turn on subsequent models) in the safe, and I had Jim screw some QDs on that too, however I expect the little scope to stay on the gun for most, if not all, the time; the rifle is very light, so light in fact that changing the scopes yields a VERY noticeable difference in weight and handling.

Here's the little Leupold, mounted on the rifle ...
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Old November 7th, 2005, 11:23 PM   #82
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... and for no reason other than I took a picture of it, the M1 in its Talley QDs.
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Old November 7th, 2005, 11:25 PM   #83
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Brockman's already makes a front sight that was just what I wanted. It's a protected sight - with "ears", like a military sight. Mine has a tritium insert.

Here's the rear scope base with its integral pop-up peep. When I first scoped a Winchester short action, I found that I had to turn the rear base 180 degrees to get the little scope I was using at the time to fit. In the intended position, the rear base left too long a gap between the rings, and turning the rear base around was the only way I could find to close the distance so that both rings would grab the tube. The Brockman rifle arrived the same way - with the rear peep turned backwards. It's not a big deal to me, because I was used to topping off the magazine with the rear base turned around backwards when this rifle was in its factory state, but I had not thought that a custom sight would also have to be turned around instead of manufactured differently for the Winchester short action. Again, though, I am not complaining; the unit seems to function well, and as I said, I'm already used to this type of deal. So, here's the rear base ...
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Old November 7th, 2005, 11:26 PM   #84
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Very nice, BigJon! Nothing in the rules about a bolt action not being tactical

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Old November 7th, 2005, 11:28 PM   #85
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Now, here's an item that, according to Jim, he'd not tried before (and I am quite certain he was humoring me.) From what I can tell, there are three ways to run a rifle bolt after the shot. The one most of us see at the range is careful back, manually lift out the empty, and close. With a field rifle, though, one is more likely to be crankin' that thing open and closed hard! One way, by slappinig the bolt up, back, forward, and down with the palm of the hand works well for some folks, but I have the nagging problem of getting my friggin' ring finger caught between the bolt handle and the ocular on the return stroke, and let me tell you, thwacking your fingernail on a scope hurts! Cured me, so I opt the for the third method - taking a firm grip on the knob and running the bolt.

Since I am pretty much wed to that method, I asked Jim to come up with more accessible (for me) bolt. I am familiar with the Badger units, and they're great, but on a little rifle like this, it would have looked like a tumor. I explained to Jim what I was looking for, and he came up with the bolt handle on his own. Here are photos of the handle. You can see that it sits away from the stock, but not so much that it detracts from the spartan size, shape and weight of the gun.
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Wow Jon - ''Mr Write-up'' - nicely done.

Hey - there ain't nothin' wrong with a good bolt gun - I have a good many and still love em all! I can crank rounds thru even my old Jungle Carbine at a pretty slick lick!

That Win looks real nice and it is best of all if you have achieved your own desired spec' too.

Oops - just saw that bolt handle - nice too - a very important piece of ergonomics in fact.
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The stock is a composite. I can't remember the manufacturer; it may be a Brown Precision because Jim and I were talking about them one day on the phone - during one of his REGULAR calls to let me know the status of the project (gooooooood customer service, folks!) Nothing unusual about the stock, except of course for the Ching sling studs, and also a little light attachment I asked him to attach over on the left side of the stock (that's just where I like it).
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Finally, here's a photo of the bottom metal. The extended belly allows the mag to legitimately hold 7 rounds.

Oh, and you may have noticed that a "B" is engraved on the bottom metal. That doesn't stand for "Brockmans". I actually had Jim build two rifles for me, identical in all respects except the lengths of pull and the names engraved on them. I did this because I owe a friend of mine my life. In some ways, he owes his to me. I am not a soldier, or an operator, and I have never been to war in the military sense. However, I have most certainly been engaged in the tough battles life throws in the way of us civilians from time to time, and my friend has always been there to back my ass up, as I have his. For this reason, I had Jim build an indentical rifle for my friend, and I gave it to him a dinner a couple of weeks back. He didn't know what to say. I told him he didn't have to.

Oh, and what does the "B" on the bottom metal stand for?

Brothers. And yea, there's a "B" on his rifle too.
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Hi, Team American and P95. Nice to meet you.

Yep, this one's right on the money. I didn't get to really wring it out until this past weekend, and I have to tell you that I am just flabergasted. This rifle flat cranks!

I have never, ever had this happen before, but (are you sittin' down), no kidding - it held one MOA with ALL - ALL of the following ammo!

Black Hills new match
Black Hills reman match
Georgia Arms reman match
Federal Gold Medal Match
Federal premium 150 Ballistic Tip AND 165!

Yea, they impacted in diffferent spots, but ALL AMMO SHOT TO WITHIN 1 MOA!

... and out of a 20" barrel!

Un - flippin'-be-lieveable!

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I REALLY liked some of the lever guns shown on this thread. Shweeeeet!
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