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Accurate ??? In the eyes of the beholder fer sure. For the purpose that it was designed........sure 'nuf. Remember we are talkin' true battle rifles. Not paper punchers or woodchuck hunters.
I have had expierance with both. Limited with SKS and lots with the AK's. My vote is for the AK. I've seen the AK "in action" and they are very well designed,as is the ammo that goes thru them. Let me also say that you do not need to pay the "extra" money for a milled rcvr. Sure they are better (sometimes) ......but,how much better. Re-read para #1. We have carbine matches in our "club". One of the guys always shoots a AK and I do 75% of the time. Three weeks ago we had a stage of fire that was putting 10 shots on a plastic(35~ gal) drum. With the standard sights we were able to put shot after shot on the drums at 400 meters from the sitting position. A 10" steel plate was "dead" every shot at 200 meters. This, shooting the 122gr. FMJ military stuff. The SKS and the AK have all kinds of after market add ons. The AK probably has a few more. As a rule the AK will cost you more. If you want a weapon simply to carry in your trunk for the distances and firepower needed that is beyond what a pistol can deliver you would probably better be served by a, closely looked at before buying, SKS. If you want a weapon as a bug out weapon or a home defense weapon,or even as a around the farm weapon,I'd reccomend the(closely looked at before buying)AK. If you decide to purchase either weapon,start hitting all the gunshows in search of good deals on ammo and aftermarket goodies. -------- |
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The SKSs are quite adequate for a truck carbine. I own two Yugo 59/66s that I bought for my sons. They are as accurate as we need, they are a good weapon to teach the boys on, and they are dependable.
The only drawback I see is that the firing pin well in the bolt MUST be kept meticulously clean. SOME SKSs had a tendency for the firing pin to stick (this is a risk one has with any free floating firing pin, but it seemed to be more prevalent with the SKS family of weapons), greatly increasing the chance of a slam fire. Attention to detail greatly reduces the risk. Since my sons were or are the primary users of these weapons, I opted to have a spring installed on the firing pin that precludes the firing pin from sticking in the "wrong" position at the wrong time. Frankly, that's the only mod I've ever considered for either of the weapons. For me, the length of pull of the stock is short, but it fits the boys so, I'm not terribly concerned about that. For less than $200, I personally think it's a great deal, it almost puts the SKS into the realm of a "disposable" carbine.... "you can shoot it until it can't shoot no more." Ben Murray out of Texas is the gentleman that I got the springs from. http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews/...art2/index.asp
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I've have a Norinco (Chinese) SKS for about 12 years. I love it. I've heard some say the Norinco's are the most accurate, but I think that they are all pretty good for combat distances. They shoot well in all conditions and ammo is cheap. For a truck gun consider getting a folding or collapsable stock to take up less room. Also get rid of the stock magazine and find some 20, 30, or even 50 round mags. Be sure to check them out carefully if you buy used at a gun show.
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I got my SKS about a month ago. I initially had a problem getting the thing to work properly, but it turns out that the problem wasn't the gun - just the newbie behind the gun.... I had neglected to clean the pin and cosmoline out of it.
Here it is on the day I brought it home: ![]() They are pretty guns (IMO). That's the Yugoslavian 59/66. My serial # dates to February 1969. I picked it up from J&G Guns (www.jgsales.com) for $160 in almost perfect condition. It weighs 9.6 pounds unloaded. It's heavy, but it doesn't kick too much, either. I would DEFINITELY reccomend this rifle as a trunkgun - It will take a heavy beating and still fire. I MUST warn you, though. The SKS is considered a "Gateway Gun." Once you buy it, you will find yourself seeking-out more old battle rifles to try and buy. From this addiction, there are few successful recovery methods. Last Friday, I purchased a new ATI Fiberforce stock for it, as well as a bi-pod and cheap, short-range scope. The ONLY downfall is that these guns are VERY close to illegeal. Check your local and state laws before you drop this sucker in your trunk. Detachable mags are illegeal on a lot of combinations of these weapons, so your ammo will have to sit on a stripper clip. I do not have much experience with AK's.
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I have both
I have both an AK and an SKS. I would say that the SKS is the more accurate of the two.
The SKS is a nice Yugo 59/66. The AK is an Armory USA model. Although the SKS is more accurate, the AK is a better gun, for reasons of capacity, maneuverability and weight. The accuracy difference really isn't all that huge. The AK also cost around three times as much as the SKS The Yugo's don't have chromed barrels, but as long as it is kept clean, that doesn't mean much. Some say that it makes the Yugo the more accurate of the various SKS models. I say probably not. But it is plenty accurate enough for a truck gun. |
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Search around and find a RUSSIAN SKS......(they're stamped with the Soviet star and yr of Mfg on the top of reciever) they're one of the best in the bunch. Good 100 yd gun, and also good for deer (balistics are close to the 30-30) if it's a legal thing, then go with a Ruger Mini 30 rifle, as you won't encounter that "legal suff" issue.....
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Shoot from the hip? When one of those hot cases lands on your nose and burns you might think twice.
The SKS is a great rifle for the money. It is one of the best guns for the money on the market today. You get alot for a little.
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WOW, man, guys, let me say first of all THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REPLIES!! You guys are totally awesome. :) (and don't worry, when I get it, I'll give you guys alllll the dirty details WITH pics!
)So here's another question that came to mind after reviewing what you guys said on here: Is there any way to AK-47ize an SKS? What I mean is, I LOVE the look of the AK with its wood pistol grip and stocks, but I like the price of the SKS, so is there any way I could outfit an SKS to where it looks almost just like the AK? Also, for car carry (ie: Trunk carry) what would be a good case to carry it in to keep it free of dirt, easily accessible, and yet not recognizeable (at least not right off the bat) as a gun??
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I didn't post before because you already had a load of good info.
As for converting to ''AK-ize'' - IMO not very practical as I recall. Others may know better than I. I do believe tho places like http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ might have some options to take your fancy re changing furniture. They have a lotta stuff for AK's and SKS's. Trunk carry - how about the ubiquitous (beat up) violin case ![]()
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Haha, would an SKS fit in a violin case?
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