Which rifle for LEO squad car? - Page 2

hsuCowboy98 · October 3rd, 2006, 11:04 AM

I doubt that you will have any choice in the matter. If it is anything like most other Texas big-city departments, you may only carry a patrol rifle after going through an extensive qualification course and additional training to alleviate liability concerns.

That said, most departments authorize m-4 style ar's. TX DPS uses Bushmasters.

That is why I voted for the AR, because if that is what I will be using, that is what I have been training with.

P95Carry · October 3rd, 2006, 11:24 AM

Hmmm yes - doubt choice will enter into it but - I would say SOCOM.

My thinking is geared to the N Hollywood shootout where the cops were severely undergunned - .308 would have stopped things real quick IMO.

Skygod · October 3rd, 2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by '75scout

I'm looking for you opinion on which rifle to put in an LEO squad car. I just applied to the Austin, TX PD academy. If I get accepted, and make it through the academy, I would like to put a rifle in my squad car. That is if I'm allowed to. I like most every option in the poll so let me know which you picked and why. Although I'm not as impressed with the AR-15s as most others seem to be.

I posted this at TFL also, so if you're a member there this might look familiar.

You might want to just concentrate on the 25 meter target first ! That being the acceptance to the academy, and successful completion of said academy. Firearms will the least of your worries.

Rob72 · October 3rd, 2006, 11:50 AM

Again, "if you have a choice..."- I would say FAL para, for availability and cheap cost of mags, in a 18" length. The SOCOM is a cool little gun, but 16" is really not optimizing the .308.

JimmyHat · October 3rd, 2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by '75scout

I'm looking for you opinion on which rifle to put in an LEO squad car. I just applied to the Austin, TX PD academy. If I get accepted, and make it through the academy, I would like to put a rifle in my squad car. That is if I'm allowed to. I like most every option in the poll so let me know which you picked and why. Although I'm not as impressed with the AR-15s as most others seem to be.

I posted this at TFL also, so if you're a member there this might look familiar.

Application, background investigation, physical, polygraph, psych. eval, case law, defensive driving, combatives, criminal procedure.......................................so mewhere down the list is the Patrol Rifle Response course.

Assuming said Department allows you to attend, and assuming even further that they let you choose which rifle to carry.

Zero on the 25 in three rounds, learn to zap the 50 meter and 75 meter aligned targets with one shot, then spank the 300 meter E-Type every time without fail. Move on and up from there.

Baby steps.

paknheat · October 3rd, 2006, 12:14 PM

It has been a few years since my LEO days. I carried a Bushmaster AR-15 in my patrol car. It is my own and i had to qualify with it. If i were still in that profession today, I would not hesitate to rely on it . I would use the new Hornady TAP ammo though.If Austin is anything like Dallas, anything you want to use has to be on their approved equipment list.

Skygod · October 3rd, 2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob72

Again, "if you have a choice..."- I would say FAL para, for availability and cheap cost of mags, in a 18" length. The SOCOM is a cool little gun, but 16" is really not optimizing the .308.

Ya beat me to it !! Ever see the muzzle flash on one those things ?? It's impressive. I'd just take the M1A/M14 if that were the case.

BigEd63 · October 3rd, 2006, 03:18 PM

Para-Fal

Used to have an SA/Imbel Bush rifle.

Even without the folding stock it made a nice car or in my case Jeep rifle.

SIXTO · October 17th, 2006, 06:32 AM

My god kid, worry about getting hired first, getting thru FTO etc. You have a long road ahead of you before you should concern yourself with things you wont have a hand in for a long time to come. Theres way more to the job than firearms.
Good luck with your application.
Oh yeah to answer your question, the AR is my preference.

ron8903 · October 17th, 2006, 07:40 AM

AR-15
Because thats what I use, on the job and at home.

View Poll Results: Which rifle for an LEO Squad Car
AR-15	49	59.04%
Sig 556	2	2.41%
FN FS2000	0	0%
FN PS90	2	2.41%
SA Socom 16 (without the big rail)	18	21.69%
Para FAL	3	3.61%
AR-10	0	0%
Vepr or Arsenal AK	2	2.41%
Mini-14	4	4.82%
Other (Please specify what and why)	3	3.61%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

October 3rd, 2006, 11:04 AM	#11
hsuCowboy98 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,023	I doubt that you will have any choice in the matter. If it is anything like most other Texas big-city departments, you may only carry a patrol rifle after going through an extensive qualification course and additional training to alleviate liability concerns. That said, most departments authorize m-4 style ar's. TX DPS uses Bushmasters. That is why I voted for the AR, because if that is what I will be using, that is what I have been training with. __________________ Fear No Evil.

October 3rd, 2006, 11:24 AM	#12
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,339	Hmmm yes - doubt choice will enter into it but - I would say SOCOM. My thinking is geared to the N Hollywood shootout where the cops were severely undergunned - .308 would have stopped things real quick IMO. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

October 3rd, 2006, 12:14 PM	#16
paknheat Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 247	It has been a few years since my LEO days. I carried a Bushmaster AR-15 in my patrol car. It is my own and i had to qualify with it. If i were still in that profession today, I would not hesitate to rely on it . I would use the new Hornady TAP ammo though.If Austin is anything like Dallas, anything you want to use has to be on their approved equipment list. __________________ A armed person is a citizen-An unarmed person is a future victim.

October 17th, 2006, 07:40 AM	#20
ron8903 Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,693	AR-15 Because thats what I use, on the job and at home. __________________ "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill

October 3rd, 2006, 11:50 AM	#14
Rob72 VIP Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 2,816	Again, "if you have a choice..."- I would say FAL para, for availability and cheap cost of mags, in a 18" length. The SOCOM is a cool little gun, but 16" is really not optimizing the .308.

October 3rd, 2006, 03:18 PM	#18
BigEd63 Ex Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 318	Para-Fal Used to have an SA/Imbel Bush rifle. Even without the folding stock it made a nice car or in my case Jeep rifle.

October 17th, 2006, 06:32 AM	#19
SIXTO VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: At home Posts: 8,564	My god kid, worry about getting hired first, getting thru FTO etc. You have a long road ahead of you before you should concern yourself with things you wont have a hand in for a long time to come. Theres way more to the job than firearms. Good luck with your application. Oh yeah to answer your question, the AR is my preference.

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