Need shotgun advice - Page 2

tabraha · October 28th, 2006, 11:19 PM

Thanks for the input!

frankmako · October 28th, 2006, 11:35 PM

get a remington 870 with an 18 inch barrel. then buy a spare barrel for hunting. hard to beat the 870.

sgtD · October 29th, 2006, 12:08 AM

I would recomend Mossberg over 870 as well. I've seen a few 870s have problems. I have owned 5 different Mossbergs and have frineds with them and my dad has shot the same one for 30 years without fail.

We had this discussion on another thread. I guess the newer 870s aren't of as good a quality as the old wingmasters. I had an 870 express and didn't like it. My cousin has one and has problems with it regularly.

Just my opinion based on personal experience. Your mileage may vary.

tabraha · October 31st, 2006, 12:01 AM

UPDATE:
Well I ended up with the 870. Funny thing was I asked to look at the 870's and Mossy 500's and I was shown the standard guns and then I noticed a pump at the back that had a special stock on it. I asked the guy, "Is that a Knoxx SpecOps stock on that pump in the back?" Sure enough he had one 870 Tactical left; already has the SpecOps stock, 18" barrell, 7 shot capacity too so I was tickled. Also tickled to get it for under my $500 ideal budget too! It's in OD Green and it looks pretty mean....

Thanks to everyone for their advice. Now I've got to go read the threads to see what loads folks are running for HD. THANKS AGAIN GANG!!

Crexrun · October 31st, 2006, 01:10 AM

Thats a very nice gun, but it only holds 7 in the tube? Hmm, My dads Mossberg 835 (3 1/2" 12 ga.) will hold 7 2 3/4" in the tube, If memory serves, mine holds 5 in the tube. I suppose with the 18" barrel they can't, but I was still thinking the Mossberg defender model (name may be wrong) held 9 with a 18" barrel. Good find! Crexrun

djturnz · October 31st, 2006, 01:50 PM

The Mossberg Persuader can come with a 5 shot mag and 18" or 8 shot mag with 20" barrel.

ghost tracker · October 31st, 2006, 02:48 PM

As Social Shotguns go...the Remington vs. Mossburg debate won't be settled today (nor will the Autoloader vs. Pump). Personally, I'm a Remington 870 man but have always wished the safety was tang-mounted like that of a Mossburg 500 series. Both have proven themselves capable & durable in the hands of many thousands of shooters over multiple decades of production. The Remington holds a slight edge in availability, popularity & serves as the starting point for some of the most advanced fighting shotguns (Wilson Combat, Vang Comp, etc.) in Military & Law Enforcement use. Let's not forget the very speedy Winchester pump models (practically as fast as an autoloader) & the new FN models just recently adopted by the U.S.M.C.

All things considered, for combo sport & defense use, in a cost-effective package...almost HAS to be the Rem 870 Express Magnum, 12 gauge, synthetic stock, Home Defense model. Then pick-up a spare vent rib, 24-26" rem-choke barrel for bird, waterfowl, turkey, coyote, deer, whatever. It will ALWAYS be worth what you pay for it & isn't too expensive to use as an emergency boat paddle (like every OTHER Duck Hunter I've ever known)!

Good Shooting,
Ghost Tracker

tabraha · October 31st, 2006, 03:06 PM

It's definitely cost effective! I was tickled to get such a potent weapon compared to my handguns for such a low price. Especially being outfitted for HD with the short barrel and stock on it like that. I'm just glad they didn't have one with some Vang Comp work on it or I woulda' brought it home!!!

I think I'll look into VCS for the second barrel for this gun.

tabraha · October 31st, 2006, 03:09 PM

Oh, while I'm at it what are some good setups for a Tac Light on the 870? I've looked at a few online but want some end-user feedback if possible.

ghost tracker · October 31st, 2006, 03:41 PM

Surefire makes both intregrated light/forearm combos AND multi-rail (aluminum) forearms. Little bit pricey but rock-solid pro equipment. I've gone for the multi-rail & added a Blackhawk "Gladius" flashlight. If y'all haven't seen it's strobe feature, do yourself a favor & check it out. It's a serious weapon all by itself. How many other LED flashlights do you know of that can disorient / disable a threat with LIGHT? It's got to be experienced to be believed. EVERYBODY who has seen mine is saving-up for one. Everyone.

October 28th, 2006, 11:19 PM	#11
tabraha Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: S.C. Posts: 185	Thanks for the input! __________________ ______________________ Tad A.

October 29th, 2006, 12:08 AM	#13
sgtD Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,685	I would recomend Mossberg over 870 as well. I've seen a few 870s have problems. I have owned 5 different Mossbergs and have frineds with them and my dad has shot the same one for 30 years without fail. We had this discussion on another thread. I guess the newer 870s aren't of as good a quality as the old wingmasters. I had an 870 express and didn't like it. My cousin has one and has problems with it regularly. Just my opinion based on personal experience. Your mileage may vary. __________________ When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.

October 31st, 2006, 12:01 AM	#14
tabraha Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: S.C. Posts: 185	UPDATE: Well I ended up with the 870. Funny thing was I asked to look at the 870's and Mossy 500's and I was shown the standard guns and then I noticed a pump at the back that had a special stock on it. I asked the guy, "Is that a Knoxx SpecOps stock on that pump in the back?" Sure enough he had one 870 Tactical left; already has the SpecOps stock, 18" barrell, 7 shot capacity too so I was tickled. Also tickled to get it for under my $500 ideal budget too! It's in OD Green and it looks pretty mean.... Thanks to everyone for their advice. Now I've got to go read the threads to see what loads folks are running for HD. THANKS AGAIN GANG!! __________________ ______________________ Tad A.

October 31st, 2006, 01:10 AM	#15
Crexrun Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aberdeen, SD Posts: 63	Thats a very nice gun, but it only holds 7 in the tube? Hmm, My dads Mossberg 835 (3 1/2" 12 ga.) will hold 7 2 3/4" in the tube, If memory serves, mine holds 5 in the tube. I suppose with the 18" barrel they can't, but I was still thinking the Mossberg defender model (name may be wrong) held 9 with a 18" barrel. Good find! Crexrun __________________ Walther P22, Velocitors, on my side. Ruger P95, Speer Gold Dot 124 +Ps, bedside. Mossberg 500, full of steel shot behind the door. And a Princeton Tec Genesis 3 watt led and a Gerber Ridge knife! Don't steal MY Coors Light!

October 31st, 2006, 02:48 PM	#17
ghost tracker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ky Backwoods Posts: 742	Remington, Mossburg, (Winchester, FN) As Social Shotguns go...the Remington vs. Mossburg debate won't be settled today (nor will the Autoloader vs. Pump). Personally, I'm a Remington 870 man but have always wished the safety was tang-mounted like that of a Mossburg 500 series. Both have proven themselves capable & durable in the hands of many thousands of shooters over multiple decades of production. The Remington holds a slight edge in availability, popularity & serves as the starting point for some of the most advanced fighting shotguns (Wilson Combat, Vang Comp, etc.) in Military & Law Enforcement use. Let's not forget the very speedy Winchester pump models (practically as fast as an autoloader) & the new FN models just recently adopted by the U.S.M.C. All things considered, for combo sport & defense use, in a cost-effective package...almost HAS to be the Rem 870 Express Magnum, 12 gauge, synthetic stock, Home Defense model. Then pick-up a spare vent rib, 24-26" rem-choke barrel for bird, waterfowl, turkey, coyote, deer, whatever. It will ALWAYS be worth what you pay for it & isn't too expensive to use as an emergency boat paddle (like every OTHER Duck Hunter I've ever known)! Good Shooting, Ghost Tracker

October 28th, 2006, 11:35 PM	#12
frankmako Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 1,890	get a remington 870 with an 18 inch barrel. then buy a spare barrel for hunting. hard to beat the 870.

October 31st, 2006, 01:50 PM	#16
djturnz Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 246	The Mossberg Persuader can come with a 5 shot mag and 18" or 8 shot mag with 20" barrel.

October 31st, 2006, 03:06 PM	#18
tabraha Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: S.C. Posts: 185	It's definitely cost effective! I was tickled to get such a potent weapon compared to my handguns for such a low price. Especially being outfitted for HD with the short barrel and stock on it like that. I'm just glad they didn't have one with some Vang Comp work on it or I woulda' brought it home!!! I think I'll look into VCS for the second barrel for this gun. __________________ ______________________ Tad A.

October 31st, 2006, 03:09 PM	#19
tabraha Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: S.C. Posts: 185	Oh, while I'm at it what are some good setups for a Tac Light on the 870? I've looked at a few online but want some end-user feedback if possible. __________________ ______________________ Tad A.

October 31st, 2006, 03:41 PM	#20
ghost tracker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ky Backwoods Posts: 742	Surefire makes both intregrated light/forearm combos AND multi-rail (aluminum) forearms. Little bit pricey but rock-solid pro equipment. I've gone for the multi-rail & added a Blackhawk "Gladius" flashlight. If y'all haven't seen it's strobe feature, do yourself a favor & check it out. It's a serious weapon all by itself. How many other LED flashlights do you know of that can disorient / disable a threat with LIGHT? It's got to be experienced to be believed. EVERYBODY who has seen mine is saving-up for one. Everyone.

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