I think I need a rifle. - Page 2

artz · November 26th, 2006, 01:41 PM

I'm more a traditionalist when it comes to long arms preference.
I keep a .22 LR for food producing and what not.
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But for a survivalist rifle, I'll take the .22 magnum.
I have a lil' Taurus pump (it used to be the old Rossi model) .22 mag. rifle
The rifle is small and lite-weight. It breaks down in two pieces.
There is no magazine to lose. You load the tube under the barrel.
I believe it holds 14 rounds. The ammo may be small, but you can carry more of it. Just as convienient to find as .22LR. in stores.
It can bring down big game, 4 legged or else.

Texas Yankee · November 26th, 2006, 05:14 PM

Buy a Marlin 336 in .30-30 used. You can find them in gun shops, pawn shops and gun shows for $300 or less. After deer season, they should be plentiful. In fact, you can get them at Academy and a few other places new for just over $300. It isn't as sexy as an AR or AK, won't shoot quite as fast, but still pretty fast, doesn't have as big of a magazine and isn't as expensive. They are fully reliable having a long history of use, accurate, easy to put a scope or red dot on, easy to get parts for, ammo is available all over at good prices and at least in the next 2 years and probably a lot longer, they won't be banned and seized. If you decide to take up deer hunting, it is a terrific deer rifle. Plus it doesn't look like a "dangerous assault rifle" despite being just about as effective. In a SHTF situation, that may make the difference between the police confiscating your rifle and not confiscating your rifle.

Just make sure you take a good look at the barrel and action before buying if you buy used.

raevan · November 26th, 2006, 06:00 PM

If You feel you need a good rifle, I agree you can't go wrong with a lever action. NIB Marlin 1894 run from 300-400. Push come to shove if they make a new assault weapon ban not likely to confiscate lever action for awile . Then if You can find on buy an AK clone.

Echo_Four · November 26th, 2006, 11:49 PM

A lever action sounds like a good idea. But, I don't know why I would get one when I already have a bolt action rifle. It serves about the same purpose as a lever action, is just a little slower, and is more powerful. The only place where the .30-30 would have a huge advantage over the quasi-scout rifle I own now is in the price of ammo.

gunmetal · November 29th, 2006, 02:13 PM

The SKS sounds like a good bet for you, but I'd stay away from the aftermarket detachable mags. For one thing you may run into legal issues, and secondly, they tend to be hit-or-miss for reliability.

Get a bunch of stripper clips and load them up if you go this route.

snowdoctor · November 30th, 2006, 01:38 AM

Echo...
I would recommend something in the 5.56/.223 round
if the SHTF, this ammo is plentiful and cheap. it is what most military uses, which means if BIG SHTF, it will be around.
how about a ruger mini-14? great rifle. short stature, not too expensive, uses high capacity mags. and a whole lot of fun to shoot.
just my .02
good luck finding what you are looking for.

dropped_71chevy · November 30th, 2006, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gunmetal

The SKS sounds like a good bet for you, but I'd stay away from the aftermarket detachable mags. For one thing you may run into legal issues, and secondly, they tend to be hit-or-miss for reliability.

Get a bunch of stripper clips and load them up if you go this route.

I definitely agree with this. You can pick up an SKS from $175 to $400 depending on the features you want and have a rifle that is extremely reliable, easy to clean, and fires a cheap, modern round.

Squawker · December 1st, 2006, 02:01 AM

I think that you have your head on straight. I'm not someone that is really qualified to give you advice as to which gun, but I do believe that you have the right mindset. I simply would suggest that you get the best that you can afford, but remember, like children, it will need to be fed. Keep the cost of ammo in mind. You may want like most of us, want to aquire a bit of a stockpile. I'm on about 2000 rounds for my AR, 200 for the shotgun, around 2K 9mm, and a few hundred 45. Actually, I have 1000 rounds of Wolf FMJ that I bought for practice, but won't feed through my XD 45. So, I'm behind in 45 ammo. I'll get more defensive 45 ammo once finances settle down. Then, I have my eye on a Springfield Armory Socom II.........

AutoFan · December 1st, 2006, 05:36 PM

Since you already have a bolt action rifle, I'd pick something for closer work, like a reliable shotgun. Slugs will take the range out to where the rifle would take over, and will ruin a BG's day. Or you can load it with whatever sized shot is appropriate to the situation.

Its number 2 on my list of guns to get, and I have the disposable income.

Hekkenschutze · December 1st, 2006, 09:17 PM

SKS is good, but why modify it to shoot like an AKM? Just buy a Romanian AKM they are good rifles and looks don't matter for the AK the results matter. But if you want you can go buy yourself a AMD 63 or 65 or a Hungarian AKM. Anyway you slice it I recommend the AKM for its power, ruggad reliability, costs half of that of an AR, is shorter than an SKS, light weight, easy to shoot and it is a carbine.

November 26th, 2006, 01:41 PM	#11
artz VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 2,115	I'm more a traditionalist when it comes to long arms preference. I keep a .22 LR for food producing and what not. ---- But for a survivalist rifle, I'll take the .22 magnum. I have a lil' Taurus pump (it used to be the old Rossi model) .22 mag. rifle The rifle is small and lite-weight. It breaks down in two pieces. There is no magazine to lose. You load the tube under the barrel. I believe it holds 14 rounds. The ammo may be small, but you can carry more of it. Just as convienient to find as .22LR. in stores. It can bring down big game, 4 legged or else. __________________ '' Lord, grant me the serenity for things that I can not change "

November 26th, 2006, 11:49 PM	#14
Echo_Four Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,029	A lever action sounds like a good idea. But, I don't know why I would get one when I already have a bolt action rifle. It serves about the same purpose as a lever action, is just a little slower, and is more powerful. The only place where the .30-30 would have a huge advantage over the quasi-scout rifle I own now is in the price of ammo. __________________ "The only people I like besides my wife and children are Marines." - Lt. Col. Oliver North Firearm Facts Christian Warrior Ministries

November 30th, 2006, 01:38 AM	#16
snowdoctor Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 1,189	Echo... I would recommend something in the 5.56/.223 round if the SHTF, this ammo is plentiful and cheap. it is what most military uses, which means if BIG SHTF, it will be around. how about a ruger mini-14? great rifle. short stature, not too expensive, uses high capacity mags. and a whole lot of fun to shoot. just my .02 good luck finding what you are looking for. __________________ ----DOC----- --people ask why I carry, and I show them this picture. I think it says it all.-- NRA Certified Instructor--many disciplines

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November 26th, 2006, 05:14 PM	#12
Texas Yankee Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 233	Buy a Marlin 336 in .30-30 used. You can find them in gun shops, pawn shops and gun shows for $300 or less. After deer season, they should be plentiful. In fact, you can get them at Academy and a few other places new for just over $300. It isn't as sexy as an AR or AK, won't shoot quite as fast, but still pretty fast, doesn't have as big of a magazine and isn't as expensive. They are fully reliable having a long history of use, accurate, easy to put a scope or red dot on, easy to get parts for, ammo is available all over at good prices and at least in the next 2 years and probably a lot longer, they won't be banned and seized. If you decide to take up deer hunting, it is a terrific deer rifle. Plus it doesn't look like a "dangerous assault rifle" despite being just about as effective. In a SHTF situation, that may make the difference between the police confiscating your rifle and not confiscating your rifle. Just make sure you take a good look at the barrel and action before buying if you buy used.

November 26th, 2006, 06:00 PM	#13
raevan VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: washington Posts: 4,093	If You feel you need a good rifle, I agree you can't go wrong with a lever action. NIB Marlin 1894 run from 300-400. Push come to shove if they make a new assault weapon ban not likely to confiscate lever action for awile . Then if You can find on buy an AK clone.

November 29th, 2006, 02:13 PM	#15
gunmetal Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: US Posts: 180	The SKS sounds like a good bet for you, but I'd stay away from the aftermarket detachable mags. For one thing you may run into legal issues, and secondly, they tend to be hit-or-miss for reliability. Get a bunch of stripper clips and load them up if you go this route.

December 1st, 2006, 02:01 AM	#18
Squawker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 913	I think that you have your head on straight. I'm not someone that is really qualified to give you advice as to which gun, but I do believe that you have the right mindset. I simply would suggest that you get the best that you can afford, but remember, like children, it will need to be fed. Keep the cost of ammo in mind. You may want like most of us, want to aquire a bit of a stockpile. I'm on about 2000 rounds for my AR, 200 for the shotgun, around 2K 9mm, and a few hundred 45. Actually, I have 1000 rounds of Wolf FMJ that I bought for practice, but won't feed through my XD 45. So, I'm behind in 45 ammo. I'll get more defensive 45 ammo once finances settle down. Then, I have my eye on a Springfield Armory Socom II.........

December 1st, 2006, 05:36 PM	#19
AutoFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 945	Since you already have a bolt action rifle, I'd pick something for closer work, like a reliable shotgun. Slugs will take the range out to where the rifle would take over, and will ruin a BG's day. Or you can load it with whatever sized shot is appropriate to the situation. Its number 2 on my list of guns to get, and I have the disposable income.

December 1st, 2006, 09:17 PM	#20
Hekkenschutze Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 126	SKS is good, but why modify it to shoot like an AKM? Just buy a Romanian AKM they are good rifles and looks don't matter for the AK the results matter. But if you want you can go buy yourself a AMD 63 or 65 or a Hungarian AKM. Anyway you slice it I recommend the AKM for its power, ruggad reliability, costs half of that of an AR, is shorter than an SKS, light weight, easy to shoot and it is a carbine.