AK-47 and SKS - Page 2

Ben Hennessy · December 1st, 2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hekkenschutze

1,000 rounds will set you back $110 for the 7.62x39mm and a 500 round box of Federal 55 grain .223 will set you back around $109.

If you are not joking tell me where I can buy the 7.62x39mm round for $110 a 1000. The closes I can find around here is $175-180 for that amount.

MSGTTBAR · December 1st, 2006, 12:31 AM

http://www.academy.com/index.php?pag...324-03600-7639

This works out to $153.73 per 1000. and I can get it locally.

Hekkenschutze · December 1st, 2006, 12:37 AM

things have gone up since I have made my last big purchase of 7.62x39mm ammo! $109 is the price I paid for 50 cases of 1,000 round packs!

Midway has them for $159 per 1,000

at AIM there are two brands (not wolf) that go for $149 per 1,000
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/7_62x39.html

and here: http://www.ammunitionstore.com/
you can find 1,000 for $149

my my my how prices went UP! Pays to buy in bulk when times are good doesn't it? :D

Ben Hennessy · December 1st, 2006, 12:46 AM

Not bad prices! I wonder if the price will drop even lower? I know there have been a shortage for a long time. I can still remember a 1000 rounds for less than a $100.

Bando · December 1st, 2006, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by a_kayaker

OK I own a SKS and would never think of using it for home defense.

The 7.62 x 39 round will not stop when it hits walls. By hits walls, I mean that you could easily shoot through 3 walls in your home and still have the round go through your exterior wall.

Mine has a 30 round clip and I cannot imagine firing these rounds in my home. The possibility of the round leaving your home and entering another is very real.

For home defense find a nice defensive shotgun with a pistol grip. I would not want a long gun when turning corners in the dark and trying to be stealthy.

My first choice is a shotgun and the second is my .45.

Just my 2 cents.

We went out two weeks ago and shot through 1/2 inches of solid steel with a friends SKS. Punched a clean hole(Sorry no pics). I was very surprised. More surprising was that the hollow points penetrated the steel at a distance that the fmj wouldn't. Explain that ??? These guns are not for the home and that is for sure. I'm bet they could go through 24 pieces of wall board since a 9mm can supposedly go through 12. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm The awesome part is this display of power turned on my woman and now she wants an SKS

SixBravo · December 1st, 2006, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyerbill

I was thinking of these two rifles as my next purchase. I found them at j&g Sales from Arizona and can get both out the door for under six hundred. I am looking for a AR-15 in the future but I feel safe till the 2008 election. I own a mini14 223 and two 7.62x39 twice and another 223 soon might round me off any thoughts?

For SHTF and fun while we still can.

I live down the street from J&G. PM inbound.

p8riot · December 1st, 2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Hennessy

Not bad prices! I wonder if the price will drop even lower? I know there have been a shortage for a long time. I can still remember a 1000 rounds for less than a $100.

A few years ago I bought 120 cases at less than $50/case from a dealer who was going out of business. Still got most of it.

joe/OH · December 1st, 2006, 08:48 AM

Due to increased shipping costs, prices for 7.62x39 will most likely not drop back down.

If ammo availability is your criteria - take a hard look at the surplus market right now. There isn't a lot going for the 7.62x39 in terms of price and availability anymore.

As for AR's not being able to digest wolf or surplus ammo - that's simply hogwash. I have had the pleasure to know several AR's that will digest just about anything without a hiccup. The AR unreliability claims are mostly internet ballyhoo and keyboard commando banter.

It sounds like you're just looking to round out your arsenal - and in that case, the SKS's are hard to pass up for the price. The AK's - I would put that money in the piggy and save up for that AR (or perhaps Rock River's new LAR-10 they have coming out?). You already have a good battle rifle (mini-14) that is far superior to the AK.

JT · December 1st, 2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by joe/OH

You already have a good battle rifle (mini-14) that is far superior to the AK.

Far superior? Based on what?

I’m going to respectively disagree. Reliability wise, a mini-14 can’t touch an AK. For parts and magazine availability, the AK is also a much better choice than a Mini-14. The Mini-14 may have a slight advantage in accuracy, but that advantage is slight in my experience. The Mini-14 is no AR.

Now if you’re saying the Mini-14 is a better weapon, based on the caliber that is a whole different debate. I like both rounds, but I like the .223 in an AR and the 7.62x39 in an AK.

Ben Hennessy · December 1st, 2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by joe/OH

It sounds like you're just looking to round out your arsenal - and in that case, the SKS's are hard to pass up for the price. The AK's - I would put that money in the piggy and save up for that AR (or perhaps Rock River's new LAR-10 they have coming out?). You already have a good battle rifle (mini-14) that is far superior to the AK.

My experience differs from yours. An AK is one of those rifles that you can throw down in the dirt, kick it around and then pick it up and shoot it. I believe the AR is more accurate and better made but in my eyes not better designed. With all the AR fans on this forum ( and I wish I had an AR too ) I hope I do not recieve hate mail. LOL

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December 1st, 2006, 12:37 AM	#13
Hekkenschutze Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 126	things have gone up since I have made my last big purchase of 7.62x39mm ammo! $109 is the price I paid for 50 cases of 1,000 round packs! Midway has them for $159 per 1,000 at AIM there are two brands (not wolf) that go for $149 per 1,000 http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/7_62x39.html and here: http://www.ammunitionstore.com/ you can find 1,000 for $149 my my my how prices went UP! Pays to buy in bulk when times are good doesn't it? :D

December 1st, 2006, 12:46 AM	#14
Ben Hennessy VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. James, Missouri Posts: 2,361	Not bad prices! I wonder if the price will drop even lower? I know there have been a shortage for a long time. I can still remember a 1000 rounds for less than a $100.

December 1st, 2006, 08:48 AM	#18
joe/OH Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cinci, OH Posts: 376	Due to increased shipping costs, prices for 7.62x39 will most likely not drop back down. If ammo availability is your criteria - take a hard look at the surplus market right now. There isn't a lot going for the 7.62x39 in terms of price and availability anymore. As for AR's not being able to digest wolf or surplus ammo - that's simply hogwash. I have had the pleasure to know several AR's that will digest just about anything without a hiccup. The AR unreliability claims are mostly internet ballyhoo and keyboard commando banter. It sounds like you're just looking to round out your arsenal - and in that case, the SKS's are hard to pass up for the price. The AK's - I would put that money in the piggy and save up for that AR (or perhaps Rock River's new LAR-10 they have coming out?). You already have a good battle rifle (mini-14) that is far superior to the AK.