Would a .30-30 Lever action be a good enough GHTF rifle? - Page 3

raevan · December 2nd, 2006, 09:28 PM

In a SHTF senario ammo or the lack of it will be the highest priority so each shot counts. With a leveraction if I shoot 3 I can load 3, shoot 8 load 8, shoot 2 load 2. If one is used to a lever action the rifle never really goes empty. You can always top of the magazine without having to remove anything or have the chamber open.

snowdoctor · December 2nd, 2006, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p8riot

Lots of us folk have taken deer at over 100yds with our trusty 30-30 levers, with a single shot. Don't sell the 30-30 lever short, granted it doesn't have the quick follow up an AK does, but in the hands of a good shooter it will do the job.

+1... and with the new Hornaday leverlution sp? you can be accurate and deadly to 200 yds....
so 50 yds and a single deer is totally inaccurate and isn't a knowledgeable statement
I think the 30 30 lever would be a good GTHF firearm. and concealed carry magazine had an article about it a few months back. Like someone said...it is a hunting/cowboy gun, and isn't threatening like an 'assualt' firearm...
The only problem I could see it the magazine capacity...

Cliffh · December 3rd, 2006, 04:01 AM

I pondered over this same question prior to purchasing my 336W a couple months ago. Did a lot of research, both in person and on the Internet. Bought the 30-30. I wasn't looking for something that'll shoot into the next county, 150 yards is farther than I can reliably see now-a-days anyway.

From what I've found, it can work for anything from squirrel to small/medium bear - with the right loads. Reloading is a skill I'm going to learn ASAP.

In a SHFT scenario, I'm assuming (yep, I know what that means

) that I won't have to face more than 6 or 7 at one time. If so, well, I'm practicing fast reloading with a partially full mag. And after the first couple fall, the rest just might start looking for cover or leave the area.

razorblade · December 3rd, 2006, 05:07 AM

Well don't forget, it'll probably be more useful to you as a brush gun, than a SHTF rifle. Something you can sling across your back, accidently drop while climbing a fence, throw into the back of your pickup. You don't have to worry about breaking that rifle.

p8riot · December 3rd, 2006, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razorblade

Well don't forget, it'll probably be more useful to you as a brush gun, than a SHTF rifle. Something you can sling across your back, accidently drop while climbing a fence, throw into the back of your pickup. You don't have to worry about breaking that rifle.

By that definition an AK or an SKS is also a brush gun.

Doc Holliday · December 3rd, 2006, 11:40 AM

A lever action will serve you well for whatever purpose from bagging whitetails to defending yourself. You don't have to have an semi-auto rifle for a SHTF situation. As long as you are proficient and train yourself for quick follow-ups you should be in good shape. Also work on transitioning from your rifle to your pistol quickly for situations where you may have a jam, run out of ammo, or close quarters where you may need a faster rate of fire.

razorblade · December 3rd, 2006, 06:02 PM

You can operate a lever action faster than you think. I found this video online, some random dude shooting his lever action as fast as he can. http://youtube.com/watch?v=aWwQdxm_miU
Mind you, he's using 357, not 30-30. That might be the cause of his quick follow ups. Whether or not he's aiming, or actually acquiring the front sight for each shot is a different story.

razorblade · December 3rd, 2006, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p8riot

By that definition an AK or an SKS is also a brush gun.

It sounds better than calling an AK an assault rifle

CombatEffective · December 3rd, 2006, 08:30 PM

Try to find video of Richard "Tequilla" Young.

p8riot · December 3rd, 2006, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razorblade

It sounds better than calling an AK an assault rifle

+1 on that

December 3rd, 2006, 05:07 AM	#24
razorblade Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Alexandria, Va Posts: 523	Well don't forget, it'll probably be more useful to you as a brush gun, than a SHTF rifle. Something you can sling across your back, accidently drop while climbing a fence, throw into the back of your pickup. You don't have to worry about breaking that rifle. __________________ "Why? Why, to give you a taste of your future...a preview of things to come. Con permiso, Capitan? The hall's been rented, the orchestra engaged...it's time to see if you can dance." ~ Q. Last edited by razorblade; December 3rd, 2006 at 05:13 AM.

December 3rd, 2006, 11:40 AM	#26
Doc Holliday Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,351	A lever action will serve you well for whatever purpose from bagging whitetails to defending yourself. You don't have to have an semi-auto rifle for a SHTF situation. As long as you are proficient and train yourself for quick follow-ups you should be in good shape. Also work on transitioning from your rifle to your pistol quickly for situations where you may have a jam, run out of ammo, or close quarters where you may need a faster rate of fire. __________________ Give Doc the shotgun. They'll be less apt to get nervous if he's on the street howitzer. Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave. I have two guns, one for each of ya.

December 3rd, 2006, 06:02 PM	#27
razorblade Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Alexandria, Va Posts: 523	You can operate a lever action faster than you think. I found this video online, some random dude shooting his lever action as fast as he can. http://youtube.com/watch?v=aWwQdxm_miU Mind you, he's using 357, not 30-30. That might be the cause of his quick follow ups. Whether or not he's aiming, or actually acquiring the front sight for each shot is a different story. __________________ "Why? Why, to give you a taste of your future...a preview of things to come. Con permiso, Capitan? The hall's been rented, the orchestra engaged...it's time to see if you can dance." ~ Q.

December 3rd, 2006, 08:30 PM	#29
CombatEffective Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,000	Try to find video of Richard "Tequilla" Young. __________________ Shooters' Legacy Special sections for S&W and Ruger

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

December 2nd, 2006, 09:28 PM	#21
raevan VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: washington Posts: 4,093	In a SHTF senario ammo or the lack of it will be the highest priority so each shot counts. With a leveraction if I shoot 3 I can load 3, shoot 8 load 8, shoot 2 load 2. If one is used to a lever action the rifle never really goes empty. You can always top of the magazine without having to remove anything or have the chamber open.

December 3rd, 2006, 04:01 AM	#23
Cliffh Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Az Posts: 80	I pondered over this same question prior to purchasing my 336W a couple months ago. Did a lot of research, both in person and on the Internet. Bought the 30-30. I wasn't looking for something that'll shoot into the next county, 150 yards is farther than I can reliably see now-a-days anyway. From what I've found, it can work for anything from squirrel to small/medium bear - with the right loads. Reloading is a skill I'm going to learn ASAP. In a SHFT scenario, I'm assuming (yep, I know what that means ) that I won't have to face more than 6 or 7 at one time. If so, well, I'm practicing fast reloading with a partially full mag. And after the first couple fall, the rest just might start looking for cover or leave the area.