AR 15 Opinions/Experiences Please - Page 4

rocky · January 5th, 2007, 12:26 AM

Finally, don't get a mini y comp brake. they are loud to the user, and twice as loud to bystanders.

Ryno23 · January 5th, 2007, 02:23 AM

I am seeing the issues a lot clearer in regards to the build it vs buy it built scenarios. Great info Sixto, Rocky, Hobbes, et.al. Much abliged. Just saw an AR that had a RRA forged lower with a LMT upper using a Wilson 16' barrel in an A2 set up complete. Any thoughts guys?

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Hobbes · January 5th, 2007, 03:16 AM

That would probably suit you fine- be aware though, I don't *think* the wilson bbls are chrome lined. Not completely sure though, you may want to check up on it if it's important to you.

SIXTO · January 5th, 2007, 11:23 AM

No, the wilson barrels are not chromed lined...they are chrome moly.

All that means is you will need to take a little more care of the bore, its not a big deal unless your planning a vacation in Iraq.

As Rocky said, DO NOT GET A Y COMP! They punish everyone on the line, and it feels like your getting smacked in the nose every time you shoot. Stick with a bird cage or something close.

Ryno23 · January 5th, 2007, 11:40 AM

Roger that on the mini Y compensator. As more of the info comes in on this I don't think the chrome lined barrel is a deal killer one way or another. I clean and lube per manufacture's spec every time I get back from the range or a hunt so I think a chrome barrel is a bell and whistle issue, or so it seems from the intell coming in from y'all.

"Contrary to popular opinion, the world is full of some very bad m*****f****** that are in dire need of a fatal case of lead poisoning. Let the poisoning begin!" A US Marine in the thick of it all.

Hobbes · January 5th, 2007, 03:02 PM

I've had non-chrome lined ARs before. As already said, it's nice to have but minimal maintenance will of course keep the bore shiny and like new. Bore snakes work great for this too.

ckd · January 5th, 2007, 03:17 PM

I have shot several different ARs though only own a Bushy that my wife also shoots; not that I wouldn't purchase other brands. Colt, RRA, Bushmaster, Armalite, would top my list in that order.

We selected a chrome lined flutted barrel, A3 (removable handle) with a muzzle break, normal stock, and find it a very light and nicely balanced combo for under $900. RRA, Bushmaster, DPMS and Olympic were easily availble from my local GS.

I've read elsewhere that frankenARs, multiple source upper/lower etc.. often go FUBAR when run through an AR classes, so a very reputable builder is essential. Beware.

Tubby45 · January 5th, 2007, 11:49 PM

My recommendation for a first AR is to buy one complete or buy a complete lower from company A and complete upper from company B. Then learn about the gun and build your second one.

If you are going to build here is my advice:

Buy a stripped lower and two lower parts kits just in case.

Build the lower using AR15.com's guide.

Buy a completed upper assembly.

Learn how the upper works and is put together by swapping out parts as needed or tinkering. Easier to learn this way. Change out one piece at a time, if something fails, you know what changed and can remedy it quickly.

The upper is more complex than the lower, so that is why I recommend a lower build first over a complete build. That is the way I did it. I built my lower on a Bushy stripped, got a CMMG Inc upper assembly and slapped it on. I am acquiring upper parts here and there to build another upper for it. By doing it this way I have a complete upper assembled by professionals to look at to guide me if I get lost and can double check my work. I can see how something should look when parts fit together and then I just replicate it.

I am not mechanically inclined in the sense of auto or motorcycle mechanics, but I can put together guns pretty well without much trouble. I have built a number of bolt action rifles (including a takedown Mauser 98 switchbarrel in .338-06 and .376 Steyr). I am now trying my hand at AR rifles and 1911s.

Ryno23 · January 7th, 2007, 05:09 PM

Much obliged for all the great info and experiences. I am still looking for the one rifle or complete upper and lower that I see a a decent deal. I did see a complete RRA upper (wilson chromed barrel 16" M4) and a RRA complete lower with collapsible stock from the same company for about $735. This sounds pretty good and a little less risky than some of the "frankenguns" going around. Any thoughts on this?

Bud White · January 7th, 2007, 05:46 PM

I would like to know how the Smith ar are to just because

I have a bushmaster and can reccommend it have had mine over 10 years and a lot of rounds no problems

January 5th, 2007, 12:26 AM	#31
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 12,060	Finally, don't get a mini y comp brake. they are loud to the user, and twice as loud to bystanders. __________________ "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson Nemo Me Impune Lacesset Link to my kydex builds:http://rocknloadkydex.blogspot.com/

January 5th, 2007, 11:49 PM	#38
Tubby45 Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: In the reloading room Posts: 1,988	My recommendation for a first AR is to buy one complete or buy a complete lower from company A and complete upper from company B. Then learn about the gun and build your second one. If you are going to build here is my advice: Buy a stripped lower and two lower parts kits just in case. Build the lower using AR15.com's guide. Buy a completed upper assembly. Learn how the upper works and is put together by swapping out parts as needed or tinkering. Easier to learn this way. Change out one piece at a time, if something fails, you know what changed and can remedy it quickly. The upper is more complex than the lower, so that is why I recommend a lower build first over a complete build. That is the way I did it. I built my lower on a Bushy stripped, got a CMMG Inc upper assembly and slapped it on. I am acquiring upper parts here and there to build another upper for it. By doing it this way I have a complete upper assembled by professionals to look at to guide me if I get lost and can double check my work. I can see how something should look when parts fit together and then I just replicate it. I am not mechanically inclined in the sense of auto or motorcycle mechanics, but I can put together guns pretty well without much trouble. I have built a number of bolt action rifles (including a takedown Mauser 98 switchbarrel in .338-06 and .376 Steyr). I am now trying my hand at AR rifles and 1911s. __________________ Freakshow Manufacturing LLC "You can kill it. We can help." 07 FFL/ 02 SOT

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January 5th, 2007, 02:23 AM	#32
Ryno23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 21	I am seeing the issues a lot clearer in regards to the build it vs buy it built scenarios. Great info Sixto, Rocky, Hobbes, et.al. Much abliged. Just saw an AR that had a RRA forged lower with a LMT upper using a Wilson 16' barrel in an A2 set up complete. Any thoughts guys? The price of freedom is tantamount to the consequences for the cost of indifference and apathy. "If you cross over to our domain, total corruption, one day you will see we three, and we will send you to whichever God you choose." The Boondock Saints Xd 45 ACP Service model, SiG P226 9mm & SiG P229 9mm

January 5th, 2007, 03:16 AM	#33
Hobbes Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Centralia, VA Posts: 384	That would probably suit you fine- be aware though, I don't think the wilson bbls are chrome lined. Not completely sure though, you may want to check up on it if it's important to you.

January 5th, 2007, 11:23 AM	#34
SIXTO VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Here and There Posts: 10,436	No, the wilson barrels are not chromed lined...they are chrome moly. All that means is you will need to take a little more care of the bore, its not a big deal unless your planning a vacation in Iraq. As Rocky said, DO NOT GET A Y COMP! They punish everyone on the line, and it feels like your getting smacked in the nose every time you shoot. Stick with a bird cage or something close.

January 5th, 2007, 11:40 AM	#35
Ryno23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 21	Roger that on the mini Y compensator. As more of the info comes in on this I don't think the chrome lined barrel is a deal killer one way or another. I clean and lube per manufacture's spec every time I get back from the range or a hunt so I think a chrome barrel is a bell and whistle issue, or so it seems from the intell coming in from y'all. "Contrary to popular opinion, the world is full of some very bad m***f**** that are in dire need of a fatal case of lead poisoning. Let the poisoning begin!" A US Marine in the thick of it all.

January 5th, 2007, 03:02 PM	#36
Hobbes Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Centralia, VA Posts: 384	I've had non-chrome lined ARs before. As already said, it's nice to have but minimal maintenance will of course keep the bore shiny and like new. Bore snakes work great for this too.

January 5th, 2007, 03:17 PM	#37
ckd Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 200	I have shot several different ARs though only own a Bushy that my wife also shoots; not that I wouldn't purchase other brands. Colt, RRA, Bushmaster, Armalite, would top my list in that order. We selected a chrome lined flutted barrel, A3 (removable handle) with a muzzle break, normal stock, and find it a very light and nicely balanced combo for under $900. RRA, Bushmaster, DPMS and Olympic were easily availble from my local GS. I've read elsewhere that frankenARs, multiple source upper/lower etc.. often go FUBAR when run through an AR classes, so a very reputable builder is essential. Beware.

January 7th, 2007, 05:09 PM	#39
Ryno23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 21	Much obliged for all the great info and experiences. I am still looking for the one rifle or complete upper and lower that I see a a decent deal. I did see a complete RRA upper (wilson chromed barrel 16" M4) and a RRA complete lower with collapsible stock from the same company for about $735. This sounds pretty good and a little less risky than some of the "frankenguns" going around. Any thoughts on this?

January 7th, 2007, 05:46 PM	#40
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	I would like to know how the Smith ar are to just because I have a bushmaster and can reccommend it have had mine over 10 years and a lot of rounds no problems