Next rifle I'm gonna buy

GlockinItUp · January 13th, 2007, 02:50 AM

So I'm in my favorite gun shop today, and one of the employees and I are talking. We're chatting it up about AR's and about how I want one but can't afford one. He says, we have something better in the back. He smiles and runs to the back and comes out with this: http://www.fnhusa.com/products/firea...06&mid=FNM0030

My jaw drops. He tells me that a customer bought it, but told the owner of the store to play with it for a few weeks to see what he thought. He hands it to me, and it feels great. EOtech red dot sight on top. Its about 7-10 inches shorter than an AR depending on the model you're looking at. Not sure about accuracy because the owner was at SHOT show (lucky dog). It just nestled itself in my arms. Maybe everyone else is not as impressed as I, but this was my first time getting my hands on one, and if it shoots as well as it feels, I'm hooked. Just one problem... $2200 price tag!

JT · January 13th, 2007, 11:35 AM

You could buy two AR's for the price of that.

I don’t know, it may be a good rifle. FN makes quality products. But I don't like bullpups. They typically have a shorter sight radius than a standard rifle. And while they may be shorter in overall length, to me they feel bulkier.

Plus the one real example of a bullpup issued as a standard issue military weapon (the SA80) was a total flop. That doesn’t mean bullpups can’t be a viable design, but they don’t have a real good track record.

Daddy Warcrimes · January 13th, 2007, 12:35 PM

The FAMAS, Steyr AUG and TAR-21 seem to be doing well.

JT · January 13th, 2007, 01:24 PM

I maybe wrong, but I believe the SA80 was the only bullpup to be a standard issue rifle and/or see major combat use.

Not that the ones you listed aren't good rifles, but I personally like something with extensive combat experience.

EDIT TO ADD: I forgot the FAMAS was standard French issue.

Blackeagle · January 13th, 2007, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT

I maybe wrong, but I believe the SA80 was the only bullpup to be a standard issue rifle and/or see major combat use.

The Steyr AUG is the standard service weapon for the Austrian and Australian armed forces. Given the latter's deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan, I'd guess it's seen some combat service.

The TAR-21 has been selected as the IDF's standard infantry weapon. They're still in the process of switching over, but it's seen combat service with some units already.

Rick · January 13th, 2007, 01:59 PM

With that amount of money you could kit build 8 (EIGHT) AKs. I own a Bushmaster AR-15 Rifle (20"), but would sooner rely on AKs for issues within 100-200 yards or so.

retsupt99 · January 13th, 2007, 05:00 PM

I just got my BushMaster (flat top) WITH...an EO Tec Holigraphic Scope for under $1300...

I know I can 'reach out and touch'...if I have to...

Enjoy your choices...it's not really about $ anyway...

ret

vtdefender · January 13th, 2007, 05:39 PM

The FS2000 is a phenomenal rifle in my oppinion. The only downside is the price. It's the first totally ambidextrous bullpup rifle. The trigger sould be better but its a great improvement over previous bullpup designs. Mine ate 1k rds of wolf in a day at the range with no cleaning and no malfunctions. I was amazed at how clean the action still was at the end of the day.

I love my AR's but the unique design of this rifle made it a must have for me.

January 13th, 2007, 02:50 AM	#1
GlockinItUp Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 257	Next rifle I'm gonna buy So I'm in my favorite gun shop today, and one of the employees and I are talking. We're chatting it up about AR's and about how I want one but can't afford one. He says, we have something better in the back. He smiles and runs to the back and comes out with this: http://www.fnhusa.com/products/firea...06&mid=FNM0030 My jaw drops. He tells me that a customer bought it, but told the owner of the store to play with it for a few weeks to see what he thought. He hands it to me, and it feels great. EOtech red dot sight on top. Its about 7-10 inches shorter than an AR depending on the model you're looking at. Not sure about accuracy because the owner was at SHOT show (lucky dog). It just nestled itself in my arms. Maybe everyone else is not as impressed as I, but this was my first time getting my hands on one, and if it shoots as well as it feels, I'm hooked. Just one problem... $2200 price tag! __________________ Gun control is hitting what you aim at...

January 13th, 2007, 11:35 AM	#2
JT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 1,099	You could buy two AR's for the price of that. I don’t know, it may be a good rifle. FN makes quality products. But I don't like bullpups. They typically have a shorter sight radius than a standard rifle. And while they may be shorter in overall length, to me they feel bulkier. Plus the one real example of a bullpup issued as a standard issue military weapon (the SA80) was a total flop. That doesn’t mean bullpups can’t be a viable design, but they don’t have a real good track record. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Psalm 144:1 Si vis pacem, para bellum

January 13th, 2007, 12:35 PM	#3
Daddy Warcrimes Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 473	The FAMAS, Steyr AUG and TAR-21 seem to be doing well. __________________ "and suddenly I can not hold back my sword hand's anger" DW blog

January 13th, 2007, 01:24 PM	#4
JT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 1,099	I maybe wrong, but I believe the SA80 was the only bullpup to be a standard issue rifle and/or see major combat use. Not that the ones you listed aren't good rifles, but I personally like something with extensive combat experience. EDIT TO ADD: I forgot the FAMAS was standard French issue. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Psalm 144:1 Si vis pacem, para bellum Last edited by JT; January 13th, 2007 at 01:30 PM.

January 13th, 2007, 05:00 PM	#7
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 14,965	$2,200? I just got my BushMaster (flat top) WITH...an EO Tec Holigraphic Scope for under $1300... I know I can 'reach out and touch'...if I have to... Enjoy your choices...it's not really about $ anyway... ret __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

January 13th, 2007, 01:59 PM	#6
Rick New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 4	With that amount of money you could kit build 8 (EIGHT) AKs. I own a Bushmaster AR-15 Rifle (20"), but would sooner rely on AKs for issues within 100-200 yards or so.

January 13th, 2007, 05:39 PM	#8
vtdefender New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: VT Posts: 10	The FS2000 is a phenomenal rifle in my oppinion. The only downside is the price. It's the first totally ambidextrous bullpup rifle. The trigger sould be better but its a great improvement over previous bullpup designs. Mine ate 1k rds of wolf in a day at the range with no cleaning and no malfunctions. I was amazed at how clean the action still was at the end of the day. I love my AR's but the unique design of this rifle made it a must have for me.

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