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I like the adjustable stock for these reasons: (* indicates reasons that probably don't matter)
*1. I can shorten it if I'm wearing body armor or heavy clothing. 2. Takes up less space 3. Easier to carry 4. My shorter friends and family can use it *5. If I have the attached grenade launcher, I can fire it with my dominant hand with the rifle shouldered. (With a fixed stock it's either non-dominant hand or buttstock in the underarm) I dislike it for these reasons: *1. I'm taught when going to a prone position: plant the buttstock, roll to non-firing hip, assume firing position. I have a completely irrational fear that on step 1, something may break causing the weapon to collapse on my firing hand. That would be bad juju. This fear is irrational because I've never seen it or heard of it happening, probably best to ignore this reason. 2. If I ever need to smack somebody with it, I'd prefer the solid stock. *3. No storage. |
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![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Columbia, SC
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There is one possible pitfall if you go with a collapsible stock on a home defense weapon. Most collapsible stocks have a bunch of different lengths. If you collapse the stock for storage, it can be difficult to deploy it to just the length you want in a hurry (unless you regularly use the maximum length). You're either left fiddling with it in a dangerous situation, or stuck using it at a length you've never practiced with. If this is going to be a weapon you might need in a hurry, just keep the stock at the proper setting and don't mess with it.
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Location: Oregon USA
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I have not shot many AR's, and am only in the process of purchasing my first. But, nicely, my arms are of the knuckle-draggin' variety (ie, they're long). The adjustable stock at full length (6th position) is perfect for standard shooting, given standard clothing. Two clicks in (4th position) enables wearing my thickest coat, and I wouldn't have to worry about that position except in the field or on the range. So, for me, the downside to a defensive AR's stock needing to quickly be altered doesn't apply, and the advantages for more-permanent storage and transportability are worth the added cost. For me: worth it.
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Location: Indy
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I like a solid stock better than a collapsible. I run a Sully stock with a 1" single point sling mount/spacer from Knights Armament. It brings the stock to about A1 length which works well for me. A2 stocks are WAYYYYYYY too long for most people.
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Location: Texas
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I guess I'm not "most people".
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I prefer the solid stock too. They allow a better cheek weld when shooting for accuracy.
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Location: FL
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I like the collapsible stock for the reasons stated already; some promote better cheekwelds than others; a nice new stock that's come out that I fitzed around with during SHOT was the Duostock: http://www.duostock.com/
I've heard good things about the Sully stock and wouldn't mind trying one for myself.
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I do wear body armor quite a bit, and get in and out of vehicles with my M4 quite a bit, and carry it in a "discreet" case occasionally, and otherwise have many, many uses for a collapsible stock. So, I have to place myself in the "love it" column...
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I guess it comes down to how you use your rifle...
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