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I think I'll stick with the box of frag grenedes I have by my bed. That way I don't even have to get out of bed to get the bad guy.
That punt they used to use for commercial duck hunting may be more effective
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The First Thanksgiving...
Looks like something that the Pilgrims used...
ret
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Anybody that would fall for this con job has GrapeNuts for brains.
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Memo to the President: I'll keep my guns, money & freedom... You can keep the "change!" Terry
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The answer to the question I didn't ask. No thanks.
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That is exactly what I was thinking. I think I will pass on it though.
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Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. If I have a gun, what do I have to be paranoid about?" -Clint Smith "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Jeff Cooper |
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No thanks. It might actually work but I'll stick to the shotgun with the barrell sawed off to 1/2 inch longer than the legal minimum. I call it my 'point defence weapon' and it is our downstairs gun. For those times I need firefower while backing up the stairs to my other weapons!
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Pilgrims? Nah...go back 200 more years...to 15th Century Spain... IIRC, the natives in New Spain were scared of the Conquisatdores because of a) horses, b) the noise of the blunderbuss, and c) small pox.
IMHO, small pox would be more effective!!!!! Michael
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It would seem to have a negative impact on velocity. I would think the propellent gasses would escape around the shot load as the barrel got wider. I picture a loud boom and 9 00 buck shot pellets rolling down the barrel on to the floor.
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Won't do squat-all. The blunderbuss had a big mouth for ease of loading, not shot-spread. It will open up your spread, but nothing like they suggest. Think about it- unless you stop the wad, or compress the shot in a different direction (ala, the duck-bill), the effect is no different than you'd get with a 12-14" SBS. Great marketing, though!
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