Finally got my Bulgarian Ak-47 by Arsenal

mbj0186 · February 16th, 2007, 09:58 PM

This is a Bulgarian SSR 85C by Armory USA formally known as Arsenal. I've been waiting and waiting to get this and finally!! I'm like a kid at Christmas. Anyone else own one of these or something by Armory USA or Arsenal? If so, Post em, cause I and I'm sure everyone else would like to see 'em.

If anyone has shot one of these fill me in. I haven't had a chance to go to the range yet and probably won't for a couple of weeks.

Oh...I also picked up me a Hungarian AMD 65 a couple weeks ago off gunbroker.com. It's pretty sweet to. I'll post pics as well...maybe in another thread.

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Miggy · February 16th, 2007, 10:53 PM

On the last pic, you are missing sandals.

Ride4TheBrand · February 17th, 2007, 12:15 AM

Will you be selling this one too?

SIXTO · February 17th, 2007, 01:56 AM

I got one, they are great. Most people dont understand just what they are and how well they are made compared to others.
Enjoy.

cphilip · February 17th, 2007, 02:05 AM

Actually... I think Arsenal is still Arsenal. Who is, now in the USA, Arsenal Inc. They assemble them here in the US. There is two Arsenals essentialy now. Arsenal USA and Arsenal Bulgaria. They are joint companies.

Armory is Global trades. Who I believe uses Bulgarian parts and makes some of it's own parts. They make fine stamped recievers I am told. One of thier main guys used to work for Arsenal. They do make good stuff though. But they are not Arsenal. At least best I can tell. They probably import some of the parts for thier rifles from Arsenal though I would suspect. And thier main design was from Arsenal. I don't mean to imply they are not excellent guns and all that. But they are not Arsenal. They are Armory USA. They have some historical ties and roots back from Arsenal.

And I do own an Arsenal but a Arsenal Bulgaria made "Milled" Reciever from back in 1993 when they were coming straight in from Bulgaria by an importer called D.I.G. out of Virginia Beach Virginia. They no longer are in business. These were completely built in Bulgaria in them days.

But now I believe all of it comes through and is assembled now by Arsenal Inc if I am not mistaken.

Mine is an SA-93 but the stock has been changed to more normalish wood from its original "Butt hole" stock.

Here is the classic Arsenal marking (in the milled recessed area)

srfl · February 17th, 2007, 02:19 AM

Nice AK cphilip

mbj0186 · February 17th, 2007, 05:43 AM

Very nice AK you got there!!

Yeah from what I've been told Armory USA has very close ties to Arsenal and they are actually working with people from "Arsenal" to design and manufacture these AK's . The quality of these AK's are absolutely superb and when you hold it you can feel the quality. Supposedly the 1.6mm reciever they use is closely comparible to milled AK's. They claim that it holds up as well as a milled reciever yet is much lighter. I personally don't think that a stamped AK can get any better.

If I were everyone else I would just save up a couple extra hundred bucks and go for one of these rather than the Romanians or Yugo's. It's well worth it. I almost bought a milled Arsenal off gunbroker but thought about it hard and for my purposes I don't really need a milled reciever.

I'm not going to be in the jungle for weeks on end and firing thousands and thousands of rounds through this gun. Plus the thicker reciever is suppose to be VERY close to the milled.

I recommend everyone get ahold of one of these while possible.

You never know we might not be able to buy these in the near future!!!

raevan · February 17th, 2007, 07:27 AM

Those are some nice looking AK's. Once I learn my digital camera I will post a photo of my Norinco MAK91.

cphilip · February 17th, 2007, 11:21 AM

Here is the link to Armory/Global Trades story as Global tells it

http://www.globaltrades.com/companyinfo.html

mbj0186 · February 17th, 2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cphilip

Actually... I think Arsenal is still Arsenal. Who is, now in the USA, Arsenal Inc. They assemble them here in the US. There is two Arsenals essentialy now. Arsenal USA and Arsenal Bulgaria. They are joint companies.

Armory is Global trades. Who I believe uses Bulgarian parts and makes some of it's own parts. They make fine stamped recievers I am told. One of thier main guys used to work for Arsenal. They do make good stuff though. But they are not Arsenal. At least best I can tell. They probably import some of the parts for thier rifles from Arsenal though I would suspect. And thier main design was from Arsenal. I don't mean to imply they are not excellent guns and all that. But they are not Arsenal. They are Armory USA. They have some historical ties and roots back from Arsenal.

And I do own an Arsenal but a Arsenal Bulgaria made "Milled" Reciever from back in 1993 when they were coming straight in from Bulgaria by an importer called D.I.G. out of Virginia Beach Virginia. They no longer are in business. These were completely built in Bulgaria in them days.

But now I believe all of it comes through and is assembled now by Arsenal Inc if I am not mistaken.

Mine is an SA-93 but the stock has been changed to more normalish wood from its original "Butt hole" stock.

Here is the classic Arsenal marking (in the milled recessed area)

How do you like the traditional stock on that Arsenal? The angle of my butt stock is more in line with the reciever, but it seems that on yours the stock is angle down more, I believe which were characteristic of the original AK's. I may be wrong.

The best feeling AK I've held as far as the butt stock goes is my Yugo by Century Arms. It sits nice and tight against the shoulder, but both my Hungarian and Bulgarian sit weird against the shoulder.

February 16th, 2007, 09:58 PM	#1
mbj0186 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 163	Finally got my Bulgarian Ak-47 by Arsenal This is a Bulgarian SSR 85C by Armory USA formally known as Arsenal. I've been waiting and waiting to get this and finally!! I'm like a kid at Christmas. Anyone else own one of these or something by Armory USA or Arsenal? If so, Post em, cause I and I'm sure everyone else would like to see 'em. If anyone has shot one of these fill me in. I haven't had a chance to go to the range yet and probably won't for a couple of weeks. Oh...I also picked up me a Hungarian AMD 65 a couple weeks ago off gunbroker.com. It's pretty sweet to. I'll post pics as well...maybe in another thread. __________________ __________________ Springfield EMP XD 40 SC Para Slim Hawg Rossi .38 AK-47 Bulgarian SSR 85C 2 AK-47 Hungarian AMD 63 Chuck Norris has to maintain a concealed weapon license in all 50 states in order to legally wear his pants.

February 16th, 2007, 10:53 PM	#2
Miggy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami-Dade, FL Posts: 4,545	On the last pic, you are missing sandals. __________________ You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming. Randy Cain. GunFreeZone.net

February 17th, 2007, 12:15 AM	#3
Ride4TheBrand Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Lone Star State Posts: 676	Will you be selling this one too? __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." ~ John F. Kennedy

February 17th, 2007, 01:56 AM	#4
SIXTO VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Here and There Posts: 10,087	I got one, they are great. Most people dont understand just what they are and how well they are made compared to others. Enjoy. __________________ In a land of sheep, even a toothless wolf is king. Wake Up! The zombie invasion has begun years ago.

February 17th, 2007, 02:05 AM	#5
cphilip Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,392	Actually... I think Arsenal is still Arsenal. Who is, now in the USA, Arsenal Inc. They assemble them here in the US. There is two Arsenals essentialy now. Arsenal USA and Arsenal Bulgaria. They are joint companies. Armory is Global trades. Who I believe uses Bulgarian parts and makes some of it's own parts. They make fine stamped recievers I am told. One of thier main guys used to work for Arsenal. They do make good stuff though. But they are not Arsenal. At least best I can tell. They probably import some of the parts for thier rifles from Arsenal though I would suspect. And thier main design was from Arsenal. I don't mean to imply they are not excellent guns and all that. But they are not Arsenal. They are Armory USA. They have some historical ties and roots back from Arsenal. And I do own an Arsenal but a Arsenal Bulgaria made "Milled" Reciever from back in 1993 when they were coming straight in from Bulgaria by an importer called D.I.G. out of Virginia Beach Virginia. They no longer are in business. These were completely built in Bulgaria in them days. But now I believe all of it comes through and is assembled now by Arsenal Inc if I am not mistaken. Mine is an SA-93 but the stock has been changed to more normalish wood from its original "Butt hole" stock. Here is the classic Arsenal marking (in the milled recessed area) __________________ www.cphilip.com Last edited by cphilip; February 17th, 2007 at 02:12 AM.

February 17th, 2007, 02:19 AM	#6
srfl Senior Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: FL Posts: 6,432	Nice AK cphilip __________________ USAF: Loving Our Obscene Amenities Since 1947

February 17th, 2007, 05:43 AM	#7
mbj0186 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 163	Very nice AK you got there!! Yeah from what I've been told Armory USA has very close ties to Arsenal and they are actually working with people from "Arsenal" to design and manufacture these AK's . The quality of these AK's are absolutely superb and when you hold it you can feel the quality. Supposedly the 1.6mm reciever they use is closely comparible to milled AK's. They claim that it holds up as well as a milled reciever yet is much lighter. I personally don't think that a stamped AK can get any better. If I were everyone else I would just save up a couple extra hundred bucks and go for one of these rather than the Romanians or Yugo's. It's well worth it. I almost bought a milled Arsenal off gunbroker but thought about it hard and for my purposes I don't really need a milled reciever. I'm not going to be in the jungle for weeks on end and firing thousands and thousands of rounds through this gun. Plus the thicker reciever is suppose to be VERY close to the milled. I recommend everyone get ahold of one of these while possible. You never know we might not be able to buy these in the near future!!! __________________ Springfield EMP XD 40 SC Para Slim Hawg Rossi .38 AK-47 Bulgarian SSR 85C 2 AK-47 Hungarian AMD 63 Chuck Norris has to maintain a concealed weapon license in all 50 states in order to legally wear his pants.

February 17th, 2007, 07:27 AM	#8
raevan VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: washington Posts: 4,093	Those are some nice looking AK's. Once I learn my digital camera I will post a photo of my Norinco MAK91.

February 17th, 2007, 11:21 AM	#9
cphilip Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,392	Here is the link to Armory/Global Trades story as Global tells it http://www.globaltrades.com/companyinfo.html __________________ www.cphilip.com

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