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Location: The Lone Star State
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A Mosin-Nagant 7.62 x 54 carbine IS it's most basic as the M38. Honestly, I don't think I'd attempt anything to customize it. But I'd be darn sure that I'd work the bolt over until it would cycle flawlessly every time.
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Location: Pocatello, Idaho
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Chances are either would be better in all honesty. The day of the bolt gun as a defense gun for me is long over.
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Location: Spokane area, WA
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-Dump the bayonet, that makes it too long to effectively wield inside a house. -Buy some "good" ammo to help lessen the overpenetration issue. If you reload, download and top with some good soft point .30 cal bullets. -Shoot it a lot and spend some time at the range just cycling rounds through the chamber. This will help you to get a feel for the bolt and for reloading quickly. -Put a sidesaddle on the butt with spare rounds. -Replace the steel buttplate with a decent, padded one. -Remove the barrel rings, take off the top wood and cut back the wood on the foregrip to help lessen the weight and bulk. That's about all I can think of to help out.
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Location: Colorado
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Guys i guess on thought , we should kinda define what a " shtf " or trunk rifle is , and what it should do . For myself it is defined as " put rounds on target from 15 yards to a couple of hundred yards , on target is " minute of beer can " or about 4 moa. Rapid fire tho nice is not necessairy and a turnbolt will work fine if that is what you can afford . I dont want a super tuned match gun to get beat around , nor do i want a high end ebr to get beat up . Cheap , Reliable , and acceptably accurate are my watchwords . for close up fast work i have a pistol , for wayy out there i dont need to shoot anyway .Now dont get me wrong .. i will take my ar or my fal , or even one of the sks's i own over my mosin for an all the time rifle . Its because i have them tho , and the mosin would be fine in the role with no mods , with the mods i listed ( to help with recoil and put the sight on one plain with no battery dependancy) it would be as good as any turnbolt can be without a detacable mag . Imho the enfield jungle carbine is the ultimate social trunbolt .
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Location: Pocatello, Idaho
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I don't worry about the cosmetic condition of defensive firearms. For me, if that means my trunk FAL gets some cosmetic wear for existing, it gets some wear. It was built with a G1 kit that was pretty cosmetically ugly to begin with - and cost me a whopping $350 in parts and receiver to do back in the old days. However, I wouldn't hesistate to leave one of my Uzis, a higher end FAL, or a G3 clone there. I don't use ARs as trunk guns due to dirt concerns, not value ones. Like my carry firearms, I use the best available firearms for my purpose. My life is irreplaceable - I can earn more money and over the course of its useful life, a $800 item that gets damaged through 'normal' use is nothing.
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Location: Colorado
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For myself an sks lives in the trunk of each car , i pack an ar or a fal in a drag bag for trips . Ranch rifles are rotated according to mood and season . That being said , i would not feel underarmed with a turnbolt or a lever . heck i have a couple of remmington pumps that get some service too .
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Location: ABOVE is the FOOTPRINT of a common american CHICKEN
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