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View Poll Results: If you were going into battle woud you rather have the
Reliable AK 111 41.26%
Accurate AR 158 58.74%
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Old February 24th, 2007, 12:24 AM   #51
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The reliability of the AK combined the accuracy of an AR.

My Galil is my battle rifle of choice.

Hefty price tag these days though.

It's a bit on the heavy side since it was originally designed to be a full auto squad weapon with a fully machined receiver...but ya can't beat those 50 round SHTF magazines and it's an incredibly accurate rifle.
Nearly recoiless and it never burps.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 12:51 AM   #52
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What they both said. Gimme a vise grip, bailing wire, chewing gum and a stick and I'll fix any AK. I can't afford to buy or carry the ER tools required for an AR.
IMO if you take care of your AR though, there's nothing to fix. the only bad 5.56 I've seen was accredited to mistreatment.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 02:07 AM   #53
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I would go with AK, Have read a lot about proper upkeep of AR and it was not encouraging. I lost a lot of friends in Vietnam due to faulty AR's.( I know they are better now, but still don't trust them)

Personally I would prefer a M14 or a M1A of National Match Quality.

Were I to have to go into Battle right now, I would take 3 rifles.
My MAK91, Marlin lever action 44Mag, and my Ruger M77 bolt action with Target Barrel in .308 (.5 Min/angle)
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Old February 24th, 2007, 04:03 AM   #54
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I picked the AK but what I would really want is the HK 416. I think they frankensteined themselves the best AR15/M16 style gun any one could want. They fired it two seconds after unburying it from the sand, two seconds after submerging it, then rotated it from inverted to upright 360 degrees while firing it full auto and never had a malfunction. Then they shot 90 rounds full auto and pulled the bolt out to find it cool to the touch. The insides work like an HK but the rest is all AR. I want one (needless to say). Military and Police sales only for now though.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 04:10 AM   #55
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Would prefer the AK.
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Old March 1st, 2007, 12:37 AM   #56
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I guess it really depends on the type of combat situation you're talking about. Most of what we're seeing nowadays tends to be taking place in urban areas. That being the case, I don't think it really matters, either one would be fine.

now for some qualifiers:

-I wouldn't take the AR if I was restricted to FMJ ammo
-I wouldn't take the AK if I knew that I'd need precision accuracy out beyond 150-200 yards or so. Actually, in this case I wouldn't want the AR either, I'd want something in .308 (FAL, M1A, G3, etc.)

If you handed me one of each that I'd never shot and didn't know anything about, I'd take the AK simply because IMO, there's less that can go wrong .
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Old March 1st, 2007, 01:42 AM   #57
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Thats why I included a poll...but I think it is a good question
Why is it a good question?
This thread has generated 6 pages of discussion, but nothing that can't be discerned by simply typing "AK vs. AR" into the Google search bar.

So my response is: why is this discussion any different than the thousands of other identical ones? You may very well have something new to discuss, but I did not get that impression by reading your initial question. If you are trying to go somewhere specific, then create a more narrow framework for the discussion. Simply asking what people's opinions are in such a general way will bring 1,000 answers for 1,000 different reasons.

Then again, maybe I'm just being contrary.
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Old March 1st, 2007, 06:51 AM   #58
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I watched old men argue about the weather in Arizona day in and day out and that never changes. I guess with six pages of responses people still wanted to talk about AKs and ARs.

I want a plethora of guns in either flavor and many others to be quite honest with all of you (especially an HK416 though-in case Santa reads this).
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I voted for AR, but either one would do.

I'd rather go into battle with a FAL or M-14
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Old March 1st, 2007, 07:47 AM   #60
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I'd prefer the AR because I think it's better ergonomically. I thried getting the feel of an AK at a gun show and it felt like it was made for someone much smaller. I didn't like it. The AR feels much better, especially with a collapsible stock.

Of course, in a "Red Dawn" scenario I'll take anything I can get my hands on.
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