swedgin

Have you guys seen this gun. It is unbelievable I posted some stuff about it in another thread so I won't go into detail here but it is a tremendously reliable AR variant. I hope these things catch on and they start selling them to the public. There are some people within HK who want to sell them to the public, I sure hope they win or I'm gonna have to buy a Bushy or a Sig 556.www.hkpro.com/hk416.htm

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Dakotaranger

Looks like a great rifle, but I don't know if they make a semi version or if it's a transferable class three here.

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Ride4TheBrand

I figure they'll eventually make a semi version. Looks like a sweet weapon.

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srfl

...I'd be happy if a complete upper (with HK sights) is available.

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Doc Holliday

To quote Peter from Family Guy, "Freakin' Sweet!"

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Blackeagle

There's been a lot of discussion about this on the boards over at hkpro.com, some people over there are practically foaming at the mouth to get their hands on one. Unfortuantely, it doesn't look like we'll be seeing them on the civilian market anytime soon. The issue isn't making a semi-auto version, it's where the gun is manufactured. They're being made in Germany, and ATF won't let HK import them for civilian sales (even in semi-auto), just military and police use. To sell them on the civilian market, HK would have to set up a factory here in the U.S. (just like SIG did with the 556). Right now, the word is that HK isn't going to do that. I guess they just doesn't think that would be profitable.

Reportedly, there are some 416 uppers in civilian hands here in the U.S. (a 416 upper will fit on a standard AR lower). Evidently these were imported for police use, then broken down and the uppers sold on the civilian market.

dr_cmg

While not an HK there is a similar firearm produced here in the US and readily available. Patriot Ordnance Factory

I have a Recon version on order for a customer. It should arrive in 10 to 12 weeks. I'll try to post some pictures when it comes in.

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rmw

I understand that because it is an H&K it will be good quality but is there anything special about it besides it being a piston driven upper ? And aren't there 3 or 4 mfg's that already do this ? I just ordered a Sig 556 so hopefully it will live up to the hype

swedgin

They fired it 2 seconds after unburying it from the sand, then 2 seconds after it was submerged in water then they rotated it 360 degrees from vertical to upside down to vertical while firing full auto with no problems in all 3 tests. They then shot 90 rounds through it full auto and removed the bolt to find it cool enough to hold bare handed. Do you think the other mfg.s put their guns through that?

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rmw

Yes . I've never seen one of these in person but as far as I can tell it is just a glorified piston driven AR . Look at these http://www.zmweapons.com/index.htm
They are in use in Iraq right now and he has been making them for years and if I remember right he first did it so he could have a pistol withought the spring sticking out of the back of the receiver . I love H&K guns and roller lock and fluted chambers are sweet but it looks to me like they are just trying to get into the LE market a little deeper
.There are some pretty tricked out AR's out there right now and maybe they have something new but if they do I guess I am not seeing it