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My two semi-auto rifles are probably my two most fired centerfire rifles. (the .22 wins most fired hands down). Ammo is relatively inexpensive, and they are fun to shoot. If there was a defense situation where I had time to grab a rifle, I would reach for one of them first.
Is my Mini-14 (stainless with black composite stock) a regular rifle? Would it be if it was instead blued with wood?
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I think you've pretty well gotten the answer!
In all honesty, there are rifles, shotguns and pistols, and (barring ClassIII, or other exotica) you really can't differentiate too much more, in practical terms. The HCI crowd is intelligent enough to realize that folks with $2000+ to spend on double-barreled duck guns, are probably politically active as well, the 18-25 yo with their SKS/AK probably isn't.Its all sport, at this point. Bottom line: any hunting arm is designed to kill; military-style arms simply offer more rounds on target in the same amount of time (provided you can shoot either a bolt or the semi-auto competently). It makes no difference to me- if I need a defensive arm, whatever I have will do, but the semi- performs its loading operation without me having to think about it. I can concentrate on important things- like running and/or ducking. Talk to anyone living within 50 miles of our southern border- this is becoming less and less "academic" each day. My dad used to think I was a "gun nut". He's lived the past 9 years in south TX. He doesn't go around his property armed to ward off stray doggies. He doesn't chuckle indulgently at my AK either. |
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Yup, my fault on the "rifle" language use. My idea of a "regular rifle" is the old bolt action hunting rifle or something like that. Point taken. And of course, I was not in the least bit criticising those who own these...i think they are cool as hell and would like to get one sometime.
As one of the uninitiated, when i think of AK47s and AR15s, I think of rambo shooting endless rounds from the hip with no aiming. Obviously I know thats not what you guys do (though im sure you do sometimes, as this looks very fun). |
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My AK is mostly for training. If for some reason there isn't a working M-16, 249, or 240 around, there might be a few AKs lying around that I might borrow. A firefight does not seem the appropriate time to learn to use a new weapon so practicing on the most common battle weapon in the world seemed prudent.
The Army doesn't supply me with an AK and range time so I went and got my own. My AR, I got it "just in case". I don't anticipate needing it for any real purpose, but it's good to have anyway. Until then, it's fun to shoot and helps me make up lost range time since I left the infantry. |
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I really don't shoot from the hip.
My M-1 carbine would be very easy too, My FAL is not a hip shooter. The FAL is used for hunting the carbine just for fun. Plus to me the fun does not equal the ammo spent when I practice spraying and praying.
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Thanks for the replies. I am a noob in most things in this arena!
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I wouldn't say I'm "preparing" for a SHTF situation, but I won't let myself be caught with my pants around the ankles. Knees? Perhaps, although I'm trying to avoid that too. Seven P's and all that. And hell yes, they're fun to shoot! As to why not a regular rifle - the AR-15 is the absolute closest I can get to the piece I spent my time with in the Corps. I can live without a burst function. ![]() |
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Why An AR...Now?
When you want to go out and just have some shooting fun...
Before you CAN"T buy one... Very dependable...parts are simple and available... Large mags... When the SHTF and the gangs come calling... When you might just have to 'reach, way out' and touch someone... ret
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[quote=Nate;307188]
I wouldn't say I'm "preparing" for a SHTF situation, but I won't let myself be caught with my pants around the ankles. Knees? Perhaps, although I'm trying to avoid that too. Seven P's and all that.QUOTE] 7 P's? I only learned 6 P's. Which one did they miss with me?
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AR's are flat out fun. Accurate, reliable and lethal.....what else do I need in a rifle?
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