first AR-15 for a novice? - Page 2

AutoFan · March 1st, 2007, 03:09 PM

I have a very nice DPMS.

As far as ar15.com goes, lurk awhile before you start asking questions, and try the search functions (it doesn't always work).

Have fun.

cphilip · March 1st, 2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1911shooter

i agree as well as the BUSHMASTER stay away from colt i had 2 of them and traded both.

huh? you had a problem with Colt? now sure I understand.

I, so far, have no problem with the complete Bushmaster I bought nor the RRA upper that I just received. Seem well made and both carriers were staked well and fit and finish was excellent.

Have no problems at all with the Colt Match Target either. Except the price that is. It is a tad better but not by a whole lot that I can tell. But it serves a different purpose anyway.

TwistedMonkey · March 1st, 2007, 07:19 PM

I would go with a http://www.slr15.com
These are designed and built by people in the field who depend upon their weapons to be reliable and to save their lives.
I too thought this was a bunch of mumble jumble until I had the opportunity to sit down and take one apart, train and shoot with one.
A lot of thought has gone into the design of these and corners were not cut. Forged uppers and lowers, enhanced bolts and extraction systems to name a few. And for the price it's not that much more to get quality. They will be coming out with a new rifle soon that will truely change the way people look at and train with AR15's. I had the opportunity to shoot a prototype and I can just say....I am on the waiting list once they roll out!
Now alot of you might say...."well I never heard of them".......need I remind you about another company 20yrs ago that revolutionized the automatic.....they too were new....and their name was Glock.

whamonkey · March 1st, 2007, 07:56 PM

Any AR15 is fine for a beginner. The rifles are actually fairly simple to breakdown and maintain.....CLP goes a long way towards keeping them running smoothly.
I would recommend a Rock River Arms Elite CAR A4 (Pete at Legal transfers in NH will take care of you http://ar15sales.com/index.htm), but if you go another route (Bushmaster, CMMG, Armalite, Colt, or any of the dozens of makers out there) make sure you go with a mid length, get the .223/5.56, and get a chrome lined barrel. (RRA ECARA4's from Pete come with a Wylde chamber which will accept both the .223 and the mil spec 5.56, and chrome lined barrels.)

You won't regret getting one, they are loads of fun.

Chris17404 · March 1st, 2007, 08:48 PM

Thanks so much for all the information! I have a lot of stuff to consider! I appreciate it.

Chris

Dingle1911 · March 9th, 2007, 05:09 PM

You could also consider an A3 configuration which has a flattop upper so that you could mount optics at a later date, but comes with the detachable carry handle so that it looks like and A2 and you can shoot it with iron sights until you are ready for optics.

Be VERY careful, AR's are fun to shoot and you might want more than one.

dimmak · March 9th, 2007, 05:18 PM

As far as which brand to purchase, you may consider what your primary use will be for such a critter....
The main thing is to make sure that the gas key is properly staked and I like Crane O-rings for durability as well....
I have a Bushy V match, a Stag m4-gery, and a Colt 6920....
I have an SLR15 Operator on the way.....
The Colt has the best fit/function by far but I have yet to experience any major problems in any of them.....
I am looking forward to breaking in the Sully rifle when it gets finished....
www.slr15.com

dimmak · March 9th, 2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedMonkey

I would go with a http://www.slr15.com
These are designed and built by people in the field who depend upon their weapons to be reliable and to save their lives.
I too thought this was a bunch of mumble jumble until I had the opportunity to sit down and take one apart, train and shoot with one.
A lot of thought has gone into the design of these and corners were not cut. Forged uppers and lowers, enhanced bolts and extraction systems to name a few. And for the price it's not that much more to get quality. They will be coming out with a new rifle soon that will truely change the way people look at and train with AR15's. I had the opportunity to shoot a prototype and I can just say....I am on the waiting list once they roll out!
Now alot of you might say...."well I never heard of them".......need I remind you about another company 20yrs ago that revolutionized the automatic.....they too were new....and their name was Glock.

Ah, "The Grail".... ;o)
You would be wise in that choice sir.....

Just check out the parts list.....

Sully was kind enough to call me and answer all my questions prior to placing my order and Sally (his wife) has kept me posted regarding progress on the rifle.....

rodc13 · March 9th, 2007, 06:27 PM

One of the beauties (that's right, beauties) of the AR-15 is that the primary function is pretty much the same across the board. Pick a major brand and you'll be in good shape. There's also a great deal of interchangeability, a key element in the design. For example, one of mine is currently assembled with a Rock River Arms M4-type lower and a DPMS upper. No problems at all.

It's just a great, practical design for a long gun, and a lot of fun to shoot.

buzzg · March 9th, 2007, 11:39 PM

If you really want an AR15, M16, etc., look into Rock River Arms, DPMS, etc. Both offer good quality rifles with all of the old 'nam qualities. If you want a good DVD on the weapon use, takedown, cleaning, etc. go to www.gunvideo.com. Great DVD on all of the above. I bought a Rock River Arms AR1240, base price $935. Yeah, you can probably get a used; read: clapped out, version anywhere for a lot less. Then when you find out what's wrong, you can spend another $500-$600 at the gunsmith to make it right. They've got a great warranty, and offer many upper configurations that will fit without gunsmithing on your base lower. Mine has iron sights, 16" Wilson air guaged barrel, two stage trigger, and even with my old eyes (68 yrs) with iron sights at 100 yds. I can shoot 2"-3" inch groups with factory ammo. Don't be discouraged by the prices. Thery're worth it. rockriverarms.com.
Buzzg.

March 9th, 2007, 05:18 PM	#17
dimmak Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TN Posts: 1,755	As far as which brand to purchase, you may consider what your primary use will be for such a critter.... The main thing is to make sure that the gas key is properly staked and I like Crane O-rings for durability as well.... I have a Bushy V match, a Stag m4-gery, and a Colt 6920.... I have an SLR15 Operator on the way..... The Colt has the best fit/function by far but I have yet to experience any major problems in any of them..... I am looking forward to breaking in the Sully rifle when it gets finished.... www.slr15.com __________________ "Ray Nagin is a colossal disappointment" - NRA/ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox. "...be water, my friend."

March 9th, 2007, 06:27 PM	#19
rodc13 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 2,409	One of the beauties (that's right, beauties) of the AR-15 is that the primary function is pretty much the same across the board. Pick a major brand and you'll be in good shape. There's also a great deal of interchangeability, a key element in the design. For example, one of mine is currently assembled with a Rock River Arms M4-type lower and a DPMS upper. No problems at all. It's just a great, practical design for a long gun, and a lot of fun to shoot. __________________ Cheers, Rod "We're paratroopers. We're supposed to be surrounded!" Dick Winters

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March 1st, 2007, 03:09 PM	#11
AutoFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 954	I have a very nice DPMS. As far as ar15.com goes, lurk awhile before you start asking questions, and try the search functions (it doesn't always work). Have fun.

March 1st, 2007, 07:19 PM	#13
TwistedMonkey Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Minneapolis, Mn Posts: 109	I would go with a http://www.slr15.com These are designed and built by people in the field who depend upon their weapons to be reliable and to save their lives. I too thought this was a bunch of mumble jumble until I had the opportunity to sit down and take one apart, train and shoot with one. A lot of thought has gone into the design of these and corners were not cut. Forged uppers and lowers, enhanced bolts and extraction systems to name a few. And for the price it's not that much more to get quality. They will be coming out with a new rifle soon that will truely change the way people look at and train with AR15's. I had the opportunity to shoot a prototype and I can just say....I am on the waiting list once they roll out! Now alot of you might say...."well I never heard of them".......need I remind you about another company 20yrs ago that revolutionized the automatic.....they too were new....and their name was Glock.

March 1st, 2007, 07:56 PM	#14
whamonkey Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Spring Hill, Tn. Posts: 307	Any AR15 is fine for a beginner. The rifles are actually fairly simple to breakdown and maintain.....CLP goes a long way towards keeping them running smoothly. I would recommend a Rock River Arms Elite CAR A4 (Pete at Legal transfers in NH will take care of you http://ar15sales.com/index.htm), but if you go another route (Bushmaster, CMMG, Armalite, Colt, or any of the dozens of makers out there) make sure you go with a mid length, get the .223/5.56, and get a chrome lined barrel. (RRA ECARA4's from Pete come with a Wylde chamber which will accept both the .223 and the mil spec 5.56, and chrome lined barrels.) You won't regret getting one, they are loads of fun.

March 1st, 2007, 08:48 PM	#15
Chris17404 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: York, PA Posts: 99	Thanks so much for all the information! I have a lot of stuff to consider! I appreciate it. Chris

March 9th, 2007, 05:09 PM	#16
Dingle1911 Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 174	You could also consider an A3 configuration which has a flattop upper so that you could mount optics at a later date, but comes with the detachable carry handle so that it looks like and A2 and you can shoot it with iron sights until you are ready for optics. Be VERY careful, AR's are fun to shoot and you might want more than one.

March 9th, 2007, 11:39 PM	#20
buzzg Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 132	If you really want an AR15, M16, etc., look into Rock River Arms, DPMS, etc. Both offer good quality rifles with all of the old 'nam qualities. If you want a good DVD on the weapon use, takedown, cleaning, etc. go to www.gunvideo.com. Great DVD on all of the above. I bought a Rock River Arms AR1240, base price $935. Yeah, you can probably get a used; read: clapped out, version anywhere for a lot less. Then when you find out what's wrong, you can spend another $500-$600 at the gunsmith to make it right. They've got a great warranty, and offer many upper configurations that will fit without gunsmithing on your base lower. Mine has iron sights, 16" Wilson air guaged barrel, two stage trigger, and even with my old eyes (68 yrs) with iron sights at 100 yds. I can shoot 2"-3" inch groups with factory ammo. Don't be discouraged by the prices. Thery're worth it. rockriverarms.com. Buzzg.