sks or Nagant? - Page 2

Stetson · May 15th, 2007, 01:21 PM

If I was going deer hunting I would use my mosin over my sks.It has
more power hand and accuracy that a bolt gives over a semi.Both are
fun to shoot!

Fragman · May 15th, 2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectre

Another gun to consider is the Yugo Mauser in 8mm. The bolt design is often copied and is still used in modern bolt rifles. 8mm, at the moment, is still extremely cheap, so practice ammo will be plentiful. They are very accurate and affordable. Since it's not a "collectible" like a K98 Mauser, you can take it into the bush without worrying about scratching it up. Food for thought, anyway.

Ditto that.

JT · May 15th, 2007, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

Another gun to consider is the Yugo Mauser in 8mm. The bolt design is often copied and is still used in modern bolt rifles. 8mm, at the moment, is still extremely cheap, so practice ammo will be plentiful. They are very accurate and affordable. Since it's not a "collectible" like a K98 Mauser, you can take it into the bush without worrying about scratching it up. Food for thought, anyway.

Good choice.

However, the ammo isn't cheap like it was. Most of what is left is steel cased, although you can occasionally find some brass cased. Either way, it has about doubled in price.

P95Carry · May 15th, 2007, 01:57 PM

I know the mention was SKS or Mosin .......... and I'd certainly give the SKS good marks, my fave being a Norinco.

But let me be off track and mention one other inexpensive milsurp, that eats 8mm .. the Turk Mauser. I fitted on the ATI furniture, which is sorta ''Steyr" pattern and fugly but - forget looks - it feels great. The bolt needs modified for scope - and instead of doing a heating method to reform the handle - used an add-on approach, where old handle cut off and stub drilled and tapped to take a new angled piece.

I shot mine again this last weekend and while it is not that tight of a grouper, is very adequate and I'd even consider it worthy of hunting use at a push. Mine is better than minute of pie plate and with some aim-off can connect with a 600 yard steel plate (man size) almost every time.

cpmiv · May 15th, 2007, 03:27 PM

I've been looking at one of these to scope my M44 might be something to look into if you need / want a scope and don't want to drill the rifle. Also available for the SKS

http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews/...ount/index.asp

Spectre · May 15th, 2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JT

Good choice.

However, the ammo isn't cheap like it was. Most of what is left is steel cased, although you can occasionally find some brass cased. Either way, it has about doubled in price.

We need another 2nd world country to open up it's armory and "get rid" of all their "useless" surplus 8mm ammo.

SammyIamToday · May 15th, 2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectre

We need another 2nd world country to open up it's armory and "get rid" of all their "useless" surplus 8mm ammo.

I'm sure our stupid government would find a completely ludicrous reason to ban it's import too.

Redneck Repairs · May 15th, 2007, 06:41 PM

The nag is roughly equil to a .308 or 30-06 , the sks roughly equil to a 30-30 . Up to and including deer either should be fine within a couple hundred yards . Neither will show match accuracy but both will show enough to take down a deer ( or a man ) at a couple hundred yards . The 8mm also comes in on the rough 30-06 power scale . Personaly were it me picking up a " sole " rifle i would shop for a used savage in .308 since they seem to be really undervalued in the market and are unlikely to be affected by any ammo import bans . Either set it up as a psudo scout , or go with a variable power optic with a real low bottom end ( like a 3x9 for example ) conventional relief scope to get the " all around " rifle utility out of it .

P95Carry · May 15th, 2007, 06:45 PM

Re 8mm ammo - and haven't priced any surplus in a while ....... about two or more years ago got 3,200 rounds of Turk, for ... $125!!!

Still got plenty left.

JT · May 15th, 2007, 07:24 PM

I think this is about the best deal going right now on brass cased surplus 8mm...

http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog/pr...oducts_id=1137

May 15th, 2007, 01:57 PM	#14
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	I know the mention was SKS or Mosin .......... and I'd certainly give the SKS good marks, my fave being a Norinco. But let me be off track and mention one other inexpensive milsurp, that eats 8mm .. the Turk Mauser. I fitted on the ATI furniture, which is sorta ''Steyr" pattern and fugly but - forget looks - it feels great. The bolt needs modified for scope - and instead of doing a heating method to reform the handle - used an add-on approach, where old handle cut off and stub drilled and tapped to take a new angled piece. I shot mine again this last weekend and while it is not that tight of a grouper, is very adequate and I'd even consider it worthy of hunting use at a push. Mine is better than minute of pie plate and with some aim-off can connect with a 600 yard steel plate (man size) almost every time. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

May 15th, 2007, 03:27 PM	#15
cpmiv Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pgh, PA Posts: 357	I've been looking at one of these to scope my M44 might be something to look into if you need / want a scope and don't want to drill the rifle. Also available for the SKS http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews/...ount/index.asp __________________ There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11? (Yuri Orlov [Nicolas Cage] Lord of War)

May 15th, 2007, 06:45 PM	#19
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	Re 8mm ammo - and haven't priced any surplus in a while ....... about two or more years ago got 3,200 rounds of Turk, for ... $125!!! Still got plenty left. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

May 15th, 2007, 07:24 PM	#20
JT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 1,099	I think this is about the best deal going right now on brass cased surplus 8mm... http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog/pr...oducts_id=1137 __________________ Blessed be the Lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Psalm 144:1 Si vis pacem, para bellum

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May 15th, 2007, 01:21 PM	#11
Stetson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Augusta,Maine Posts: 883	If I was going deer hunting I would use my mosin over my sks.It has more power hand and accuracy that a bolt gives over a semi.Both are fun to shoot!

May 15th, 2007, 06:41 PM	#18
Redneck Repairs VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,141	The nag is roughly equil to a .308 or 30-06 , the sks roughly equil to a 30-30 . Up to and including deer either should be fine within a couple hundred yards . Neither will show match accuracy but both will show enough to take down a deer ( or a man ) at a couple hundred yards . The 8mm also comes in on the rough 30-06 power scale . Personaly were it me picking up a " sole " rifle i would shop for a used savage in .308 since they seem to be really undervalued in the market and are unlikely to be affected by any ammo import bans . Either set it up as a psudo scout , or go with a variable power optic with a real low bottom end ( like a 3x9 for example ) conventional relief scope to get the " all around " rifle utility out of it .