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Old July 10th, 2007, 05:39 PM   #11
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I love the .308 cartridge. I've had great service out of a Springfield Armory M1A for 13 years, doing some high-power match shooting with it. I love the .30 cartridges!
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Old July 10th, 2007, 07:43 PM   #12
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Gary,

A different option would be to look at the newer, mid-powered rounds such as 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 SPC
http://www.65grendel.com/
http://demigodllc.com/~zak/firearms/6.8SPC/faq.php

This would give you added oomph over 5.56, while maintaining the ability to use standard sized magazines.

Just another thought for you. Personally, I found a gorgeous 308 AR, but it's a little out of my price range: http://www.pof-usa.com/P-416/P-308-2...%20CARBINE.htm



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Old July 11th, 2007, 12:31 AM   #13
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I'll add my vote for the 6.5 Grendel. As for the AR-10 in 7.62N, only problem I've ever heard of them having was magazine issues (mags are expensive and not the most durable things out there).


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Thanks, guys, but not interested in a 6.8 or 6.5 for this one - I want a 7.62 because it is a 7.62 - massively common, relatively cheap, and not going anywhere soon. It's not just about the performance/capabilities, in this case - for me at least.
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I picked up a used Eagle Arms AR-10 about 6 weeks back. Other than the name, and a non chromed brl from the factory it is a Armalite. No problems at this point. The mags a $38+ but they are worth the price in my mind. You can convert M14/M1A1 mag but by the time you go through all the steps it is not all that much less. Unless you can mill them your self. Get the 2nd gen mags, they have gotten rid of the little spring loaded bolt stop pin.

Rock River Arms was my first choice but getting one was going to take time. Given the political climate it did not think time was on my side.

A buddy of mine has had a DSA FAL on order for at least three months.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 11:35 AM   #16
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A buddy of mine has had a DSA FAL on order for at least three months.
THAT is the problem. I've been waiting for my new SA-58 OSW for almost fifteen weeks! Getting one used is next to impossible, too!
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Old July 11th, 2007, 02:08 PM   #17
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Thanks for all the replies thus far. Please keep 'em comin'. I am leaning toward a DPMS for another reason - I've got a couple of buddies who have them & I would like to be able to swap out mags & parts if need be. However, neither guy has put more than a thousand rounds thru theirs, so I'd like some feedback regarding durability, if anyone has any experience with them. Thanks again!
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Secondhand info

Kenny the Sagacious Gun Guru (our resident geek in the building) mentioned to me that there are a FEW DPMS products that are made from cast parts (versus forged and milled). He suggested I stay away from ANYTHING that is cast. As far as which items and from what manufacturers that includes isn't really clear.

I'll talk to him more when he's in later today and see if he can be more specific. Oh...I should make it EXTREMELY clear that I'm not downing DPMS in any way. My experience is that they make some incredibly hardy, well-engineered stuff. I post the above ONLY because a guy who has forgotten more about guns than I'll ever know mentioned it to me. Further, he mentioned that ALL forged lowers come from one of two US Forges (can't remember the names of those, either), so the core materials that ALL of the different manufacturers start with is pretty much the same. He elaborated, saying that what those same companies do on the ol' CNC machines is EXTREMELY different from one to the other.

Hope that soothes any DPMS-faithful feathers I may have ruffled!


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Scot,

With a few exceptions, the domestic forged lowers do come from just a handful of companies: CMT, LMT, LAR and MMS.



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I've shot the Stoner SR-25 at helium filled ballooms at 600 yards and had no problems with it. Very accutate rifle.

The DPMS is accurate enough, I've only shot it to 200 yards. The trigger on it was not as good as the Stoner, but otherwise I would own one. The DPMS is cheaper than the Stoner, at least where I am at, and it seems that parts are easier to get.

Cant comment on the durability, as I've only got several hundred rounds through each. With some good glass, either one would serve you well I think.
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