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Old July 24th, 2007, 08:15 PM   #21
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I don't know about the BREACHER. But I do know a bit about shotguns. A great way to reduce felt recoil is the lengthen the forcing cone. The forcing cone acts basically as a funnel, helping guide the wad and shot column into the bore and out the barrel. By lengthening the forcing cone you reduce the resistance of the wad and shot column when entering the bore and therefore also reduce the felt recoil. Ask any serious shotgunner about it. Had this done on our sporting clays guns, also our cowboy guns. It works. A good recoil pad on a properly fitted stock also helps. A recoil reducer mounted in the stock will also help a bit. Any decent gunsmith who works on shotguns should be able to do all this for you. I think the forcing cone work cost around $60, when we had done years ago.
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I'll bring my couple of pennies into this party.

I have a Mossberg 500 that I bought as a LEO trade-in about 2 months ago. It came with ghost ring sights and the Mossberg speed-feed stock on it. I took it to the range and put some Federal LEO low-recoil slugs down it. For my first time firing a 12 ga shotgun... it was... interesting. I short stroked it all over the place and eventually ended up putting about 50 rounds downrange total between myself and 2 other shooting buddies. The 10 or so I put downrange definately left a calling card on my shoulder. It wasn't horrible, but as a gun to be used as an HD shotgun for myself and my wife, the wife was just NOT going to go for that much recoil.

Fast forward to about 4 weeks ago. After waiting for AWHILE, I finally got my SpecOps stock. Yes, it does give the gun a "tactical" look to it but for the recoil reduction that it gave me, the tac look is more than worth it. On the range with the SpecOps, full house 00 buck gave quite a bit LESS recoil than the low-recoil slugs fired with the speed-feed. It definately made a believer out of me. My wife can fire this shotgun without any problems whatsoever. She would not have been able to do that with the speed-feed. I'd much rather have the "tac" look and know my wife will go for that shotgun if she needs to than have the "grandpa " look and know that it will sit in the closet if the SHTF one day.

The piece of mind I have now is worth 10 times what I paid for the stock. Is it the end all be all? Nothing ever is, but for me it fills a role that needed to be filled.
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The "breacher" or breaching barrel is designed for just that. When using a breaching charge (or in a pinch, whatever you have) you want to be about 2-3" off the door when you fire. This prevents anything from getting lodged in the barrel, and reduces the chances for frag coming straight back at you. Since its not easy to do this after running up to a door in full gear under stress, the breaching barrel was developed to make life easier. Since the barrel ends before the "muzzle brake" you get the same standoff distance without having to keep the gun off the door.

This type of "muzzle brake" will not reduce recoil on a shotgun.

Sure would look scary though....

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Old July 25th, 2007, 05:00 PM   #24
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This type of "muzzle brake" will not reduce recoil on a shotgun.
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Thank you, sir. That's exactly what I was hoping to learn....

Thanks to all who posted.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 11:34 AM   #25
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Gary- the Knoxx system does work and as said fit of the stock is important. You might take a look at a 870 in 20 ga. The frame is smaller and the wife and children may be more comfortable with it.

I know, I know it's not the almighty 12 w/OObuck. I would rather have someone shoot a 22 really well then miss with a 44
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Gary- the Knoxx system does work and as said fit of the stock is important. You might take a look at a 870 in 20 ga. The frame is smaller and the wife and children may be more comfortable with it.

I know, I know it's not the almighty 12 w/OObuck. I would rather have someone shoot a 22 really well then miss with a 44
One of the noticeable things about the recoil reducing is that my 12 shoots almost as soft as my .410. It's got more push but it's nowhere near what it was with a factory stock and buttpad. My wife had no problem putting rounds on target with the 00 buck full loads using the SpecOps. I never would have even given her the shotgun to shoot with those loads and a factory stock. She would have hated me for life if I had done that to her!
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Gary- the Knoxx system does work and as said fit of the stock is important. You might take a look at a 870 in 20 ga. The frame is smaller and the wife and children may be more comfortable with it.

I know, I know it's not the almighty 12 w/OObuck. I would rather have someone shoot a 22 really well then miss with a 44
Very good point. Thank you.
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