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Location: Springfield, Missouri
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The AK-47 pic & info thread
Yep, I'm thinking about changing my purchase idea from the SKS to the old AK-47, for a number of reasons.
1. Compactness -- AKs seem to have a handier frame than the SKSs do, which would make it better for roadtrips/camping that I plan on using it for. 2. Magazines. C'mon, you gotta love the look of that drum. :-D 3. I've heard the AK is more accurate than the SKS; this may not be the case, just what I've heard. Alright, but here is the problem -- I know absolutely nothing about the AK-47! Okay, I know some, but not as much as I need to make a good purchase. What types/styles are out there? Which are best? Is the folding stock kind okay? Is that cool-looking drum any good, and where can I find them? So I'm asking you for all the info (and pics) that you got on AK-47s. Let the info and stories begin!! ![]()
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![]() Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: South West PA
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I have no links to hand but - there is a wealth of info ''out there'' on the web. A Google search may add quite a bit to available info.
I have a basic SAR1 ... it serves me fine, altho I have yet to reduce the trigger slap - that tho is a minor point really. Lot of folks like WASR's. Some even build their own - I have a shooting buddy who's AK is built up to be essentially a Polish gun .. and it's awesome. You need to remember or research the mandatory US made parts count if building. I have three various SKS's and they shoot pretty well but overall I prefer the AK platform. ![]()
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Location: Bedford County Virginia
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The drum is expensive, heavy, and a pain to load.
IMHO your better off with a couple dozen 30 rounders. The better AKs are te pricier ones from Atlantic Arms, check out them out at Atlantic Arms Also if your buying, ask what type of trigger it has, the original AKs have what's called "trigger slap" which is a very rough reset and it will beat your finger to death. An aftermarket trigger kit like the Tapco G2 will remove the trigger slap and improve trigger pull. Other than that I can't help much as I don't have one ![]() |
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![]() Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St. James, Missouri
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P95Carry I really like your AK. I looked at it very close the last time you showed it on here and saw you notched out the safety so it holds back your bolt. I did the same to mine after seeing yours and now I do not have to put a wood clothes pin in the action to make it safe at the range.
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Ben - yes I did the notch - but in fact I need to further mod things as the bolt handle still has a fwd radius which makes it 'escape'' sometimes and slam home. I will decrease that radius and modify the safety a bit more - might even get a spare safety and start over. I much prefer a bolt hold-open facility.
The red on trigger BTW - which I have mentioned before - is 6mm silicon tube - it cushions the trigger slap and so makes it bearable ![]()
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![]() Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Miami-Dade, FL
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Risque, There is no such thing as a bad AK. There are expensive ones and cheap ones and that's about it. Tha basic difference IMHO is finish, some are purty and some are in need of work.
I own an alleged bottom of the line: a post ban romanian WASR10. Yes, the finish was not Kimber quality but I did have lots of fun bringing up to speed with little expense. ![]() This was my AK almost like it came out of the box with 3 modifications: Wood foregrip, rail with cheap red dot and the furniture was stripped & refinished. (Cat not included) ![]() Same gun a year later and hunting for bargains as much as I could. And forget about a drum magazine. Heavy, hard to load and annoying. AK mags are plentiful, reliable and cheap. The only mag I have malfunctioning is because its spring is just kaput and I gotta get a replecement. As for trigger slap, mine is a single hook trigger and never had that problem, don't ask me why. I tried an AK with a double hook and it is a much smoother pull so it is in my list for the future alongside the muzzle break.
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Guys - Ben Hennesy referred to my safety notch on my SAR - to give some bolt hold-open facility.
I have written up a simple approach to that if anyone interested who hasn't done it.
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Location: Vancouver
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It's been a long time since I fired a AK-47, however I would not snub my nose at a SKS-D. Lots of stock options for them as well and likely cost less than the AK.
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Location: Alabama
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Nice pics. I'm wanting to upgrade from a M1 carbine to an AK sometime before December.
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Who knows. Realistically, if you buy the Arsenal or Vepr, it will be as accurate as you and ammo allow it to be. Less money means you'll be pulling mil-spec accuracy (generally), and for both the AR and AK that's 2.0 MOA. You may do better. Many of us have ARs that can hold 1.0 or a tad over, specialized guns even better. Several folks on WT have reported 1.5MOA with WASRs and Yugos, so...Unless you go Class III, the drums are an expensive PITA. I have a WASR and a Romy G kit-gun, and I love them both. BTW: www.warriortalk.com has a good and friendly AK board, not something that can be said of some. |
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