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Old August 24th, 2007, 04:24 AM   #11
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I have an M1A and I cannot recommend it strongly enough.

I would go with the full length barrel and then an after-market stock. I plan this for my next rifle because the full-length is too long to store or transport in my trunk easily. I may go for the SOCOM for the shorter barrel length, but reaching out there is the way to go in my opinion.

I didn't notice, might have missed, but there is also the AR10 option. AR15 platform chambered for .308. Makes it American made and all interchangable parts with the AR guns.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 07:24 AM   #12
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I have to vote for the FN it's not that expensive and they come in many flavors. This is my Izzy and my twin G1's The gas system is a dream, if you buy or reload large lots of ammo you can tune the gun to a more tame setting.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 08:54 AM   #13
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Lots of good info

I appreciate the comments. You have given me a great deal to think about and I will continue to research. I will let you know what I find out.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 09:32 AM   #14
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i'm eyeballing the springfield M1A for my next purchase. it's like having a crush all over again
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Old August 24th, 2007, 10:19 AM   #15
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I didn't notice, might have missed, but there is also the AR10 option. AR15 platform chambered for .308. Makes it American made and all interchangable parts with the AR guns.
I believe the AR-10's do not share many parts with the AR-15. Despite being built on the same platform, the extra length of the .308 cartridge means a different lower reciever with a larger mag-well. The upper, bolt, and bolt carrier are also similarly up-sized, IIRC.

External accessories (rails, stocks, sighting systems, etc) would be interchangable though.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:39 PM   #16
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PTR 91 is the way to go! I have the PTR91 KPF and I love it! I'm just looking for a good scope now.

Keep this in mind though------>the .308 is an excellent cartridge, BUT have you seen ammo prices lately? Especially .308!!!! They ain't cheap!
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Old August 24th, 2007, 03:26 PM   #17
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Here's an update on what I found

DS Arms makes a good FAL with cheap mags but its almost $2000

Red jacket makes a galil copy that uses galil mags for $1289

Tromix has a Saiga conversion but uses weird mags that are currenyl out of supply

Springfields M1As and Fulton Armory both have nice rifles in the scout configuration but I would have to throw another $500 to get a collasible stock. Pricey but good triggers, but heavy also but boy I love this gun.

PTR makes several models I like with folding stock or collaspible, made onthe HK action. I fell in love with the HK years ago and had a chance to buy one when they were cheap but being young and married made it hard. Only draw back to the PTRs I see are the weight and 11 pound trigger pull.

Vector makes a 308 on the old HK MP5 set up. No folding stock but for $250 more can get one.

Armalite and Fulton make an AR-framed 308. They seem to be on the high end of the price and mag prices seem to be high.

DPMS and Rock River make a 308 on the AR frame. Their prices are close, with Rock River being the cheapest and ROck River uses FAL mags which is also cheaper.

Decisions, Decisions.....more research to go.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 11:36 AM   #19
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New Kel-tec in 2008

Kel-tec is going to put out a 308 bullpup that has ambi controls and ejects brass out the front like the FN2000s. I thnk I might wait for that.

Check out kel-tec's website and look at the teaser video, looks neat.
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