Creature

I recall a thread recently somewhere (maybe in another forum...I cant find it now) describing a shotgun stored in what was described as "cruiser safe". Many police departments use this method apparently.

Anyway, it was a new one on me. I had never heard of it before and I am still somewhat confused. I think they were describing a modified condition 3 shotgun. I could be wrong though.

What is cruiser safe...and what is the advantage of this method for shotguns?

rocky

Full loaded magazine, empty chamber. Guess it is for safety/ less chance of AD into the roof. No real tactical advantage.

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bassbones

As I understand it......check to make sure the gun is unloaded, rack it, take off the safety....pull the trigger, put the safety back on and then load the mag tube.

John

Creature

Rocky: you described a Condition 3 shotgun: bolt closed, safety on and magazine loaded.

The way it was described, cruiser safe is different from condition 3 in that the bolt is kept open to the rear.

There must be a reason for that. But what/why?

And what is it to "tactical load" the first shot? Advantage/disadvantage to that?

rocky

I was taught to carry the gun w/ empty chamber full mag for in the car. Cruiser carry may mean different things to different users. Still just sounds like a redundant safety measure.
I also was taught to speed load single rounds after going dry with a shotgun. Basically you empty the gun, then leaving the pump back insert another round in the gun , push pump forward and fire. (quicker than loading the mag, then pumping)

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SIXTO

A tactical load when you directly drop a shell into the action before one is picked up from the tube, or if the tube is empty. This is used when the gun runs empty, and you dont have time to load the tube. It is also used if your tube is filled with shot, but you need a slug.

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echo5tango

the difference between cruiser carry and condition 3 is the pulling of the trigger on an empty chamber (for cruiser carry). this allows the slide to be racked without depressing the locking mechanism on the side of the receiver.

Fragman

Hmm,

Thats how I keep the shotgun in the house, hammer down on the empty chamber, full mag, safety on.

nasm

This has always bothered the back of my mind. Why is there so much talk about safe ways to transport shotguns? Is there really something wrong with the safeties on shotguns? Why not carry it "cocked and locked" so to speak, safety on, chamber loaded. Is it over-safe CYA mentality to not have a round in the chamber or a legitimate worry? Thanks much, I simply do not know enough about it, but am very interested. Thanks again.

Take care all,

nasm

Bob The Great

I keep all my guns (with the exception of my carry/bedside pistol) stored in condition 3, which as I understand it, means full mag, empty chamber, bolt closed, hammer down, and safety on, if applicable.

There's nothing wrong with cocked and locked, but I prefer to have a large movement necessary (cycling the action) to ready the gun to fire. This greatly lowers the possibility of a careless or forgetful moment resulting in an ND. If I were carrying a shotgun near my head in an enclosed vehicle, either vertically or under the roof, you can bet I'd want to do everything possible to prevent an ND, short of completely unloading the gun.

A carry gun is a totally different situation, and should be carried in condition 1 or 2, depending on the gun and your preference.