pgrass101

My M44 is stiff after firing 5 rounds. After 10 rounds it feels like I need a 2x4 to work the bolt.

Check out the Mosin vs AK vs AR

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Just a couple of quick comments. Cleaning: If you do the soapy water method just about any brand or type of soap works...I use a liquid hand pump soap device & just fill the bbl and run a cloth patch thru several times..but be sure to follow that up with near boiling water.....the latter serves to quickly dry the metal....then oil the bore as you normally would......never had any rust issues with either mil surp rifles or black powder guns

As far as the difficult bolt matter goes I found that mine slicked up considerably by simply cycling and shooting it. In particular the forward upper portion of the receiver acts as a cam on the bolt and that will smooth up with use. I also understand that SOME ammo is lacquered and that the stuff will gunk up the chamber somewhat....don't know from personal experience but its worth keeping in mind. Goes without saying that a real good and through cleanups' in order when you first get it tho.

By the way, your gun looks cleaner and crisper than the one I got from the Dealer Whse, and it was in the original arsenal paper wrap!!


I meant to mention that the "wet sand" looking stuff in the breach/chamber area was probably unburned powder......shoulden't hurt anything but thats the sort of crap a good water flush'l take care of....If you have any experience handloading and using 2400, you'l find that you frequently have unburnt granules in the bore and cyl. of a revolver.

Joshua M. Smith

I decided to really lay in with the cleaning today.

I started with a regular cleaning which gave me clean patches after about five passes. I wasn't sure where the gunk came from as I had cleaned it yesterday, so I let the bore soak in Hoppes for a few hours.

When I ran another patch through it, I got green again. I kept doing this and eventually got brown, what I assume is Cosmoline. The patches eventually came through clean again.

It's been soaking for a few more hours now. I'm watching it and every half hour there is more crud that surfaces. I figure I'll just run a soaded patch through it now and again and keep it soaking.

The good news is that this thing is beginning to resemble a *new* bore. Maybe it was one that was shot a few times and then never picked up? Dunno. I'm pretty sure some of this stuff has been in there since it was issued in '44.

The chamber has begun cleaning out as well, and ya'll were right: there's brown gunk coming out of it as well. I attached a drill to a 20 gauge bore brush and went at it. I only thought it looked nice before.

I'll keep ya'll updated! This may turn out to be a nicer rifle than I first thought!

Josh <><

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HotGuns

That is a pretty rifle.

I'd be willing to bet it wont be your last Mosin.

I can count off the top of my head 2 dozen people that have Mosins.

Nobody has just one...

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randytulsa2

Joshua, you are in for more fun than anyone has a right to have.

I've got 12 Mosins, and I love them all. Some shoot well. Some are accuracy-challenged. Some cycle smoothly. Others...don't.

But for considerably less than a hundred bucks, where else are you going to find a POWERFUL, reliable, centerfire rifle?

They're heavy. They smell bad. They don't always shoot sub MOA groups. But they are things of beauty to me, perfectly designed for their purpose - - fighting. You can shoot the BG's, stick the BG's or bash their skulls in.

It's also the ultimate vindication of our side against the commies in the Cold War. Their formerly front-line military weapons (and second-line military weapons, up until like the 1980's in some places) are now dirt-cheap collectors' items for us.

And there is nowhere else you're going to find as much shooting fun for your dollar.

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BAC

That's what my dad and brother complain about, but they also feel the same about my 8mm Mauser. I think they're just whiners.

Your shoulder will get sore after 50-ish rounds though. Mine was rather tender, actually, and didn't appreciate going from the M44 to the Mauser afterwards (made the neighboring shooter's AK feel like a toy to shoot, by comparison, though; I think I giggled).

The suggested "Windex" thing is supposed to be a 50/50 Windex to water solution. We honestly don't even do that, we just go ahead and clean the weapon religiously after we shoot it. We've only shot reloads and mil-surp ammo through our Mosins, and I've only shot 60 of about 200 rounds of commercial, non-mil-surp ammo through my Mauser, and the bores are all still mirror shiny. Just gotta be thorough with cleaning.

Enjoy your rifle. And fix the bayonet when you shoot, it's meant to be shot with the bayonet extended. And if it's like ours, yes, you will have to be rough with the bolt. Not exactly the smoothest cycling weapon.


-B

Joshua M. Smith

I think I've got the "sticky bolt" thing figured out. I'll be posting in a seperate thread about it. Looks like overpressure from this Commie crap.

Someone on one of the many boards I frequent asked for a picture of the bore when I got through with it. I do not remember what board it was, so I'll just post on all of them.


While this bore looks bad, remember I have it under extreme magnification and the pitting cannot be seen with the naked eye. While not target grade, I consider this to be acceptable and it certainly is accurate. The picture was taken after two days of soaking followed by "boilouts," before oiling.

It's not the "new" bore I thought it might be once I stripped it of its copper fouling, but it doesn't seem to matter with open sights. I'm playing with the idea of 'scoping it and I may have issues then. Until and unless I decide to do this however, I'm happy.

Josh <><

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Joshua M. Smith

I had the chamber checked today as some were concerned about a loose chamber. While it is a bit loose, it is in tolerance and should shoot any quality stuff just fine. This Russian stuff is the only crap giving problems because it's short.

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