Euclidean

I must disagree with you Bud. I think this is a better overall setup for the general purpose do it all rifle it's supposed to be. The thing I see about it is that the scout setup is rendundant where it's vulnerable. When something fails, there's a backup.

That's not to say it's perfect for everyone. It's just another tool. I'm just curious why the concept isn't more commercially viable.

And thing is Bud you can still use the thinking behind it if one of the criteria just does not seem acceptable to you. There's an awful lot of pseudo scouts out there.

If nothing else Bud consider what if you had an AR15 in .308 that met all the Scout criteria except for being a bolt action. Imagine the optic as being a holosight. The Scout concept is quite sound.

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Bud White

This is another one of those to Each there own but before you plunk down your hard earned $$$$'s Make sure you can find one to shoot i thought the Styer would be the cats meow when they brought it out and bought into cooper said it was good it should be ..


Shooting it changed my mind big time

OD

Col. Cooper is a fan of the levergun in the scout format.

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Euclidean

Actually I'm pretty convinced there's nothing the Colonel doesn't like.

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OD

Actually, there's quite a bit.

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Euclidean

I dunno... he says he doesn't like 9mm pistols and then he praised one of the CZ platforms built around 9mm.

He lays out this strict criteria for a scout rifle and then says something else is an acceptable substitute.

The thing is, the man has done so much and is probably so skilled, he's probably gotten to the point where he can pick up the biggest piece of junk gun in existence and hit a clay with it on the first shot. He lives on Gunsite for Pete's sake.

I've always thought that the perfect shooter would have no preferences or biases other than for quality when it came to selecting hardware.

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OD

He praises the platform, not the projectile.

He has firm opinions, but is open to other well thought out ideas also. He did not invent the scout rifle concept and freely acknowledges that fact.

There is no perfect shooter, I've seen him miss with his scout rifle on American Shooter. Even at 85 years old, I'd hate to be on his bad side.

First Scout Rifle Conference
http://pw2.netcom.com/~chingesh/scoutconference.html

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Euclidean

Good point OD. Cooper just formalized it and set out the criteria with an objective list. He does have a good way of stating things and qualifying them concisely.

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OD

Euc,

I hope I didn't come across as being argumentative towards you, if so, it was unintended amigo. I've been a Cooper fan for some time and enjoy a good conversation about the Colonel.

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Euclidean

Not at all OD. I just thought of it as you setting the record straight. I don't pretend to know everything. That's why I like this site so much. We don't have any resident know it alls save for the occassional presence of a troll.

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