jahwarrior1423

dont know if this caliber will interest you but a Berreta CX4 Storm. Figured it'd be a good rifle because you dont need a 223 or 7.62 for home tactics and is small enough for quick movement. Ive handled one in a store and it felt like a sturdy weapon...a lot better quality than the Keltec.

BAC

Oh hell, you said NOT chambered in 5.56?

Scratch what I said then. Grab the AK-74 and don't look back.


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pgrass101

I would go with an M1 carbine

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Rob99VMI04

Sorry missed the bottom. I would say your kind of limited to a 47/74 or a M1. Unless, you go to a pistol caliber.

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tns0038

While I know it cost a little more than your thinking, have you considered a P90



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They are make it in Simi-auto with a little longer barrel, for civilian use.



Or full auto for an out of this world experance

Rob99VMI04

I know you said NO 5.56 However, CIA RI1410X GOLANI SPORTER 223 REM for Sale at Buds Gun Shop I REALLY REALLY WANT ONE.....GALIL.

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cvhoss

I've never looked into the Gunsite courses but from the info on their web site, it appears that you are limited to 3 calibers:
If this is accurate, and you don't want a 223, I would guess that is going to severely limit your choices.

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SixBravo

Thanks for the input ladies and gents. Yeah I just now saw the notice about it being one of those three calibers. Hmm. Looks like I'm heading with the AK then.

I don't have any huge gripes about the functionlity of the AR or "how tough" it is versus an AK. My main concern falls with some of the gripes I have been hearing about the .223 not having the 'oomph' to take something or someone out of action that the larger calibers don't have a problem with. Regardless of whether or not the concern is well-founded... I simply cannot afford .223. I would love to get into reloading but at this point in my life that is completely out of the question. I don't have the time and I move often enough to make it a PITA. Don't get me wrong... I *loved* my Bushmaster. Wish I could have kept it. But the costs of ownership and enjoyment are out of my reach.

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BAC

Well, don't confuse the nonsense about the 5.56 being too "weak". It's one of the more lethal small arms combat calibers. Remember how many Germans bore witness to Americans getting up after taking a burst of 8mm from a machine gun, and how many Americans watched Germans take half a clip of .30-06 and run off.

That said, the 5.45 is about as lethal (same idea, very similar size) and the AK-74 is probably as good as you'll get if you want to keep similar balistics, low recoil, and a proven design like the AK is. Oh, and it's dirt cheap to shoot. Your call, but I think the AK-74 is your winner given your requirements.


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blackhawkbill

just buy a AK in 7.62 x 39 and be done with it ?

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