Ruger Mini 14 - Page 3

ghost tracker · March 26th, 2008, 10:09 PM

Y'all consider Calvary Arms Polymer Lower a fine-quality, good place to begin an AR build? Whoa!

Trust me Socuban...buy the Ruger!

BAC · March 26th, 2008, 10:20 PM

I'm curious, now: why they would be a bad idea for this build? And I ask this honestly, because the Cavalry Arms products, including the polymer lower, that I've handled in the past have all be good stuff. Certainly not the best, good enough that I'd use for a boat gun and, if built right, trust.

-B

garn · March 26th, 2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ghost tracker

Y'all consider Calvary Arms Polymer Lower a fine-quality, good place to begin an AR build? Whoa!

Trust me Socuban...buy the Ruger!

Well...yes!

Have you ever seen one firsthand? Owned one?

I would challenge you to find a negative post about the cavarms polymer lower. Cavalry arms is a stand up and QUALITY company, top tier customer support, and they support shootings sports constantly.

Not to mention the lifetime warranty, but hey, what do I know, I've just had experience with them

Socuban, I would recommend you take neither or our words, and go research the cavarms polymer lower on ar15.com to come to your own conclusion!

ghost tracker · March 27th, 2008, 10:51 AM

Okay...I'm caught. I have never owned an AR featuring a Calvary Arms poly lower. But I shoot with a bunch (two or three dozen) of pretty serious AR builders. I've built some (uh...five) myself. One of our gang made a well-intended, vallant effort to (ignore the rest of us and) base his first AR on a CA poly lower. The results were less than satisfactory. He eventually went with a more conventional alloy lower (there are several perfectly good ones) and found the performance of the otherwise identical components much more to his liking.

If your experience with CA has been excellent, I'm pleased for you. My admittedly limited exposure leads me away from selecting them as a starting point. I would simply prefer a factory built Mini.

garn · March 27th, 2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ghost tracker

Okay...I'm caught. I have never owned an AR featuring a Calvary Arms poly lower. But I shoot with a bunch (two or three dozen) of pretty serious AR builders. I've built some (uh...five) myself. One of our gang made a well-intended, vallant effort to (ignore the rest of us and) base his first AR on a CA poly lower. The results were less than satisfactory. He eventually went with a more conventional alloy lower (there are several perfectly good ones) and found the performance of the otherwise identical components much more to his liking.

If your experience with CA has been excellent, I'm pleased for you. My admittedly limited exposure leads me away from selecting them as a starting point. I would simply prefer a factory built Mini.

I see, the cavarms polymer isn't meant as a replacement for a traditional forged lower, but an alternative. You wouldn't choose it to build an accurized 1/2 MOA range gun, or an SPR build, etc. etc.

But for an all purpose, reach out to 400 yards with irons, lightweight build, truck gun/boat gun/etc., it would be a great choice.

Scot Van · March 28th, 2008, 04:21 PM

Just a quick note...that ATI stock that you showed the picture of is STILL not available, even though they premiered it at SHOT Show 2007 (yes...over a year ago). Ddon't ask me why, but ATI has been advertising three stocks for over a year now that you can't even buy because they don't make 'em. As a former employee, I can only suggest you look elsewhere if you want one of those stocks for your Mini sometime this decade, because you won't be able to count on seeing them any time soon.

socuban · March 28th, 2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Scot Van

Just a quick note...that ATI stock that you showed the picture of is STILL not available, even though they premiered it at SHOT Show 2007 (yes...over a year ago). Ddon't ask me why, but ATI has been advertising three stocks for over a year now that you can't even buy because they don't make 'em. As a former employee, I can only suggest you look elsewhere if you want one of those stocks for your Mini sometime this decade, because you won't be able to count on seeing them any time soon.

WOW! Sounds like the market is not there? Or maybe Choate or muzzlelite or somebody else is eating up the aftermarket market? Interesting to know, thanks.

I do have a bunch of ATI stuff on my Remington 870;

Scot Van · March 30th, 2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by socuban

WOW! Sounds like the market is not there? Or maybe Choate or muzzlelite or somebody else is eating up the aftermarket market? Interesting to know, thanks.

I do have a bunch of ATI stuff on my Remington 870;

Stellar additions to the 870 P...might I suggest you also look into adding and ATI forend for that? It is abbreviated, so you won't snag clothing or a sling when you work the action.

Don't get me wrong...I love most of the stuff that ATI makes...but this Mini 14 stuff, along with the AR15 stocks and the AK side folder they're advertising SIMPLY AREN'T AVAILABLE AND MAY NEVER BE!!!

ARRRGH!!!

AEA · March 30th, 2008, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by takurpic

I like the looks and feel of the Mini-14. I used to own one prior to getting my 1st AR-15.

The mini had some accuracy issues that weren't an issue in the AR.

That is correct. The Mini-14's LOUSY accuracy is well documented.

Other than that, I like the gun too

........but what is the purpose of the gun......to look at or to hit the intended target with the fired projectile?

I guess if yo could spray and pray like Mister T, you would eventually hit the target!

I agree that the 870 Marine Magnum (in any configuration) is a fine weapon for you boating pleasure! I own one and I don't even have a boat!

bcvojak · May 12th, 2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AEA

That is correct. The Mini-14's LOUSY accuracy is well documented.

If you have a mini-14 and aren't happy with it I have only one suggestion. . . Accu-strut.com. . . $120

March 26th, 2008, 10:09 PM	#21
ghost tracker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ky Backwoods Posts: 615	Y'all consider Calvary Arms *Polymer Lower* a fine-quality, good place to begin an AR build? Whoa! Trust me Socuban...buy the Ruger! __________________ There are only *TWO* kinds of people in this world; those that describe the world as filled with two kinds of people...and those who don't.

March 27th, 2008, 10:51 AM	#24
ghost tracker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ky Backwoods Posts: 615	Okay...I'm caught. I have never owned an AR featuring a Calvary Arms poly lower. But I shoot with a bunch (two or three dozen) of pretty serious AR builders. I've built some (uh...five) myself. One of our gang made a well-intended, vallant effort to (ignore the rest of us and) base his first AR on a CA poly lower. The results were less than satisfactory. He eventually went with a more conventional alloy lower (there are several perfectly good ones) and found the performance of the otherwise identical components much more to his liking. If your experience with CA has been excellent, I'm pleased for you. My admittedly limited exposure leads me away from selecting them as a starting point. I would simply prefer a factory built Mini. __________________ There are only *TWO* kinds of people in this world; those that describe the world as filled with two kinds of people...and those who don't.

March 28th, 2008, 04:21 PM	#26
Scot Van Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Versailles, KY Posts: 634	Just a quick note...that ATI stock that you showed the picture of is STILL not available, even though they premiered it at SHOT Show 2007 (yes...over a year ago). Ddon't ask me why, but ATI has been advertising three stocks for over a year now that you can't even buy because they don't make 'em. As a former employee, I can only suggest you look elsewhere if you want one of those stocks for your Mini sometime this decade, because you won't be able to count on seeing them any time soon. __________________ "I do not wish to kill nor to be killed, but I can foresee circumstances in which these things would be by me unavoidable" -Henry David Thoreau

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March 26th, 2008, 10:20 PM	#22
BAC Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 873	I'm curious, now: why they would be a bad idea for this build? And I ask this honestly, because the Cavalry Arms products, including the polymer lower, that I've handled in the past have all be good stuff. Certainly not the best, good enough that I'd use for a boat gun and, if built right, trust. -B