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Old May 5th, 2008, 11:14 AM   #11
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I took mine to the range and while I didn't get to shoot it side by side with a 12ga without it we plan to soon. I fired nearly 100 rounds including 00 buck TAP FPD ammo and was just fine. It still bucks, but not nearly like what I think it would without it. Looking forward to testing it side by side.
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Old May 5th, 2008, 08:41 PM   #12
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I looked into one only because it looks to have a shorter length of pull (a preference I have that, with my long arms, I can't figure out), but I'm probably just going to chop down a fixed stock to what I want. I've never found recoil to be a problem with shotguns, even shooting a friend of the family's 10 gauge pump. Now, if the Knoxx stock increases speed of subsequent shots, then perhaps I'll reconsider it.


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I looked into one only because it looks to have a shorter length of pull (a preference I have that, with my long arms, I can't figure out), but I'm probably just going to chop down a fixed stock to what I want. I've never found recoil to be a problem with shotguns, even shooting a friend of the family's 10 gauge pump. Now, if the Knoxx stock increases speed of subsequent shots, then perhaps I'll reconsider it.


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That is why I am considering either the cop stock (50% recoil reduction claimed) or spec ops stock (95% recoil reduction claimed). With reduced recoil comes reduced muzzle flip is my take anyone with either want to add their experience. I like the folding stock option on the cop stock, as all I have now is a pistol grip, but the 95% recoil reduction makes the stationary stock seem acceptable if I can maneuver easily in the house with it.
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Old May 6th, 2008, 08:54 AM   #14
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That is why I am considering either the cop stock (50% recoil reduction claimed) or spec ops stock (95% recoil reduction claimed). With reduced recoil comes reduced muzzle flip is my take anyone with either want to add their experience. I like the folding stock option on the cop stock, as all I have now is a pistol grip, but the 95% recoil reduction makes the stationary stock seem acceptable if I can maneuver easily in the house with it.

I just got the cop stock on ebay (haven't had a chance to take it out yet though... and probably won't for a few weeks ) so I'll have an idea of how they compare fairly soon.

I've got it on a remmy 870 with an 18" barrel and with the stock flipped up, it is definitely maneuverable.


Follow on shots are certainly much quicker with the full sized stock. I'll see which one I like more and probably sell the other. (unless I talk myself into buying a 24 inch rifled barrel 870 for the full sized stock to sit behind. )
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Old May 6th, 2008, 09:33 AM   #15
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I have the SpecOps Folder on my Mossberg 500 and it works great. I can almost shoot it with one hand.
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I dunno, maybe it was, but I wasnt impressed by it at all. Then again, I will shoot a flat of 00 buck in over two days for a combat course I do with a standard 14" 870 and I'm not sore at all... unless I improperly mount the gun in the first place. With proper techinique, I just dont see a need for it no matter if it works or not.
Sixto, I agree with it not being something that's absolutely needed. I do a lot of my shotgunning with single shot H&R, which due to their lightness, have more kick than my 870. However if there is something that you can buy to mitigate that kick, why not use it. That's how I see it any way. It can't hurt.
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so I'll have an idea of how they compare fairly soon.

I've got it on a remmy 870 with an 18" barrel and with the stock flipped up, it is definitely maneuverable.

Follow on shots are certainly much quicker with the full sized stock. I'll see which one I like more and probably sell the other.
Now that is the ideal scenario be able to test them side by side. Has been my impression that it comes down to which is more important maneuverability or quicker follow up shots. My pistol grip Mosseberg has more felt recoil than my hunting shotty with a full stock. So I will be curious to see of the spec ops stock really reduces the recoil alot more than the cop stock. When you compare on the cop stock can you use the stock and have it folded up? Than how those compare to the spec ops stock?
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Old June 2nd, 2008, 02:47 AM   #18
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Knoxx Spec-Ops Stocks in stock at Cabelas

Cabelas has Knoxx Spec-Ops Stocks in stock. Mine came in last week. To be honest I figured Knoxx's claims to be a bit exaggerated, and expected some reduction in recoil, but not 95%. If anything the Spec-Ops Stock effectiveness is understated. Got to play with her this week end. WOW, this thing is way to cool after about 50 rounds recoil was virtually non existent. I put 200 rounds through my Mossberg like I was shooting a 22. With the pistol fore grip I stayed right on target. NO muzzle flip to speak off at all. Constantly emptied the shotgun as fast as I could work the pump hitting multiple targets dead on from 15 feet to 25 yards. Only bad thing is I ran out of ammo and shredded all of my targets far to quickly. With a little practice and maybe a training course I have no doubt that short a full auto there is nothing I can clear a room of eight targets with as quickly or effectively as I can with Bertha. Here's a pic for you, ain't she purdy?

If you don't have a Knoxx Spec-Ops stock. Don't let the name turn you away, get one you WILL be quite pleased with the result.
One question I do have. Has anyone tried one of these on a semi auto shotgun? Seems to me that it may absorb so much of the recoil that it could impair the auto loading function. If not I may have to convert to an auto loader. Working the pump is the only thing that slows me down and takes me off of the target
Fozzy Bear, still looking forward to your impression of the Cop Stock.
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Cabelas has Knoxx Spec-Ops Stocks in stock. Mine came in last week. To be honest I figured Knoxx's claims to be a bit exaggerated, and expected some reduction in recoil, but not 95%. If anything the Spec-Ops Stock effectiveness is understated. Got to play with her this week end. WOW, this thing is way to cool after about 50 rounds recoil was virtually non existent. I put 200 rounds through my Mossberg like I was shooting a 22. With the pistol fore grip I stayed right on target. NO muzzle flip to speak off at all. Constantly emptied the shotgun as fast as I could work the pump hitting multiple targets dead on from 15 feet to 25 yards. Only bad thing is I ran out of ammo and shredded all of my targets far to quickly. With a little practice and maybe a training course I have no doubt that short a full auto there is nothing I can clear a room of eight targets with as quickly or effectively as I can with Bertha. Here's a pic for you, ain't she purdy?

If you don't have a Knoxx Spec-Ops stock. Don't let the name turn you away, get one you WILL be quite pleased with the result.
One question I do have. Has anyone tried one of these on a semi auto shotgun? Seems to me that it may absorb so much of the recoil that it could impair the auto loading function. If not I may have to convert to an auto loader. Working the pump is the only thing that slows me down and takes me off of the target
Fozzy Bear, still looking forward to your impression of the Cop Stock..
I would think on gas operated shotguns the recoil wouldn't matter as the action is being operated by a piston being blown backwards by gases,on shotguns with a blowback design It might make a difference,but I haven't used one
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Sixto, I agree with it not being something that's absolutely needed. I do a lot of my shotgunning with single shot H&R, which due to their lightness, have more kick than my 870. However if there is something that you can buy to mitigate that kick, why not use it. That's how I see it any way. It can't hurt.
Sorry I'm late to reply, I just saw this...

IMO, its unneeded because if you are shooting the shotgun with a proper mount and technique, recoil is a non issue, therefore making the product a waste of time and money.

However, if you are too far ingrained with bad habits and want to throw money at gadgets to improve your ability or shotgun experience, then go for it. Many people swear by it.
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