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Old June 5th, 2008, 06:11 AM   #31
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I would think on gas operated shotguns the recoil wouldn't matter
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Their autoloading function is based on recoil energy based inertia...
Exactly thanks Janq. Any idea if a recoil reducing stock would be negatively effect one of those? Have never seen one or shot one personally but with basically only three moving parts that does seem the way to go for an semi auto shotgun
Sixto Can you expand on what you are saying Please help me out here I have been shooting shot guns for awhile, So perhaps my bad habits are too ingrained. As I have said recoil muzzle rise / flip has always been a issue for me. So any input on how to improve my shooting skills would be a appreciated. Thanks
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If you wanna' waste your money on a gimmick that increases the chances of ALL sorts of feed issues, Knoxx is a great way to do it.
I've already addressed my experience with the Knoxx Spec Ops Stock. Works for me as advertised so I do not understand all the gimmick comments and don't feel like I wasted my money. But I have not heard anything about the Spec Ops Stock causing feed issues. Can you please fill me in on your experience? How does the stock cause feed issues? I would like to hear what feed issues you had using the Knoxx stock. Just picked up four more boxes of 100 rounds of 2 3/4 Federal shotgun rounds, (at Wally World $20 per box of 100) Should be enough to recreate the feeding issue you had. So far I've shot just under six hundred rounds using the KNoxx Spec Ops Stock with no issue. 375 plus the 200 original rounds plus some I had in a sack. As far as price apples and oranges the Knoxx recoil reducing stock is not juts an adjustable stock it also reduces felt recoil, the Knoxx non recoil reducing stock it about the same price as your ATI stock.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 09:51 AM   #32
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A pump gun is more likely to get short stroked with one of these stocks than a modern gas operated semi action is.
Obviously, you know what I was referring to, Six. Anything that increases the chances of short stroking (like a moving stock with a cheap spring in a plastic housing) on a weapon that is already prone to it is a variable I'd rather not introduce.

By the way, the above Mossy has an ATI stock on 'er...available so straight from Mossberg.
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Old June 5th, 2008, 09:56 AM   #33
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...the Knoxx non recoil reducing stock it about the same price as your ATI stock.

And WHY do you think they came out with one that doesn't have the 'recoil reducing' aspects? In response to the fact that ATI makes a better product without the gimmick OR the price tag. I know that Louis Awerbuck reviewed it once and (paraphrasing) said it wasn't a necessary part of any shotgunner's weapon if that shooter were using proper technique.

Anyway, all due respect to all who use the Knoxx. It is popular for a reason, and that is fine. I certainly meant no offense, and if I came of as snotty, offended partied please pardon the digression. If you REALLY want a superior stock modification, go for the Mesa Tactical adapter that is milled aluminum and worth every penny to allow you to put an AR-style collapsible on your shotgun. You'll pay for it, but you won't get plastic...

Incidentally, one more advantage to the ATI stock...EVERY stock fits a Remington, Winchester AND Mossberg shotguns (adapter system comes included with every one)...something Knoxx does not.
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I bought this Mossberg 500 persuader and it is my first shotgun.
I shot 20 Federal Truball slugs yesterday and my mossberg shot 8" high at 10 yds. I held the gun tight and I didn't feel anything in my shoulder but my right jaw stung a bit... Am I doing something wrong? The stock is too high for a proper sight picture(I see the top of the barrel not just bead sticking out). I've also wanted to try Knoxx Spec Ops recoil reducing stock but also heard that the comb was too high for a proper sight picture for bead sight also. I don't think i'll buy one now since the recoil on my 12 ga wasn't that bad and it would be just a home defense gun.

This was a definite problem when I worked for 'em. During some T&E phases, people like Leroy Thompson (SWAT mag) noticed that the comb was too high. So, now ATI makes an adapter that sits between stock and receiver that will drop the comb on your shotgun by almost 1/2", bringing that sight into alignment much easier. You can call 'em and they'll send you one for free (since your gun already has their stock on it).

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