AR Combat Optics - Page 2

retsupt99 · May 12th, 2008, 11:07 PM

I have the EO Tech 510 on my BushMaster AR...perfect setup...OMO

Stay armed...stay safe!

aus71383 · May 12th, 2008, 11:54 PM

I shelled out the big bucks for an Aimpoint CompM4 and I'm very happy with it. Another quite reasonable option would be an Aimpoint CompC3. Not night vision compatible, and still waterproof just not as deep. (Like maybe 3-5m instead of 50m or something like that) I think they are very near the price of an EOTech - but you don't have to push a button to turn it on. Just pick up the gun.

I like the ACOGs for that reason also, but they aren't as good for fast shooting up close - at least with my eyes. The theory is you shoot with both eyes open and the 4x reticle from the one eye tracks along with the 1x vision with your other eye and you can hit that way.

Austin

Paladin132 · May 13th, 2008, 03:05 PM

Looks like I am going to get a Eotech 512A2. I'm not sure but I think I like it a tad more than the Aimpoint. I really want the Trijicon with the red dot mounted on top of it, but that's twice the money and not something I am willing to do at the moment!

QKShooter · May 13th, 2008, 03:13 PM

Remember that the aimpoint is NOT a Holographic weapon sight.

The EoTech is a true optical hologram sighting system and that is what you are paying your money for.

kazzaerexys · May 13th, 2008, 03:15 PM

QK, can you explain what, exactly, makes a holographic sight? I have always wondered that...

aus71383 · May 13th, 2008, 04:01 PM

What he's referring to is that with the EOTech you can have your head anywhere you want and as long as you can see the reticle you will hit the target. With the Aimpoint the dot should be centered on the glass for best accuracy - with the EOTech it doesn't matter.

Austin

glock21guy · May 13th, 2008, 05:52 PM

I have a 552 AA ver., and so far I like it. It may not be as "bullet proof" as the Aimpoint but unless you are at war dose it matter to you?

You can rise the intensity in day light to the point of being way to bright.

When I was looking for optics I talked with 7 guys that worked on some sort of tac team, SWAT types. A couple were diehard EoTech or Aimpoint. The rest said get what works for me. I was hoping I would get a clear get that model answer.

kaz · May 13th, 2008, 05:53 PM

Isn't the Reflex supposed to be accurate if it's not centered also? I've never put too much effort into centering the dot and never had any problem hitting my target. I've actually never tried to see how tight a group I could get with mine either though. I know they work with both eyes open.

QKShooter · May 13th, 2008, 10:14 PM

The holographic dot is projected out to the target.
It does not get "beamed out" to the target like a laser but, the hologram puts the dot "out there" on the plane of the target rather than the reticle being at the weapon location.
Humm........let me see if I can find you a more suitable and better explanation than the one I just gave you.

OK GO HERE - Try The Simulator - (fun, but not really an actual true simulation) and then click on "Technology" at the top of the page and then click on Making A Hologram on the pull down menu. L-3 EOTech Holographic Weapons Systems

QKShooter · May 13th, 2008, 10:37 PM

I should add that one huge advantage of the hologram is if you wear eyeglasses.

For instance if you are "near sighted" and wear glasses to focus images that are far away - keeping your eyeglasses on - the lighted reticle inside the EoTech and the far away target will both be in sharp, crisp, focus with your eyeglasses on because the hologram reconstructs both the target and the superimposed reticle on the same plane of focus.
It's amazing technology really.

May 12th, 2008, 11:07 PM	#11
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 11,272	I have the EO Tech 510 on my BushMaster AR...perfect setup...OMO Stay armed...stay safe! __________________ ‘‘Four out of five politicians surveyed prefered unarmed, ignorant peasants.’’ — Unknown Liberals are as American as 'dog dodo' pie...

May 13th, 2008, 03:13 PM	#14
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Runthegun, PA. Posts: 18,013	Remember that the aimpoint is NOT a Holographic weapon sight. The EoTech is a true optical hologram sighting system and that is what you are paying your money for. __________________ *Support Our Troops* How Very Fortunate You Are To Have Two Arms To Put Into A Ward 57 T-Shirt. DC MEMBERS ~ PLEASE BUY A WARD 57 SHIRT. Click Here.

May 13th, 2008, 03:15 PM	#15
kazzaerexys Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 735	QK, can you explain what, exactly, makes a holographic sight? I have always wondered that... __________________ “What is a moderate interpretation of [the Constitution]? Halfway between what it says and [...] what you want it to say?” —Justice Antonin Scalia

May 13th, 2008, 05:52 PM	#17
glock21guy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 517	I have a 552 AA ver., and so far I like it. It may not be as "bullet proof" as the Aimpoint but unless you are at war dose it matter to you? You can rise the intensity in day light to the point of being way to bright. When I was looking for optics I talked with 7 guys that worked on some sort of tac team, SWAT types. A couple were diehard EoTech or Aimpoint. The rest said get what works for me. I was hoping I would get a clear get that model answer. __________________ Aaron If you don't protect your self, who will?

May 13th, 2008, 10:14 PM	#19
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Runthegun, PA. Posts: 18,013	The holographic dot is projected out to the target. It does not get "beamed out" to the target like a laser but, the hologram puts the dot "out there" on the plane of the target rather than the reticle being at the weapon location. Humm........let me see if I can find you a more suitable and better explanation than the one I just gave you. OK GO HERE - Try The Simulator - (fun, but not really an actual true simulation) and then click on "Technology" at the top of the page and then click on Making A Hologram on the pull down menu. L-3 EOTech Holographic Weapons Systems __________________ *Support Our Troops* How Very Fortunate You Are To Have Two Arms To Put Into A Ward 57 T-Shirt. DC MEMBERS ~ PLEASE BUY A WARD 57 SHIRT. Click Here.

May 12th, 2008, 11:54 PM	#12
aus71383 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 1,618	I shelled out the big bucks for an Aimpoint CompM4 and I'm very happy with it. Another quite reasonable option would be an Aimpoint CompC3. Not night vision compatible, and still waterproof just not as deep. (Like maybe 3-5m instead of 50m or something like that) I think they are very near the price of an EOTech - but you don't have to push a button to turn it on. Just pick up the gun. I like the ACOGs for that reason also, but they aren't as good for fast shooting up close - at least with my eyes. The theory is you shoot with both eyes open and the 4x reticle from the one eye tracks along with the 1x vision with your other eye and you can hit that way. Austin

May 13th, 2008, 03:05 PM	#13
Paladin132 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 285	Looks like I am going to get a Eotech 512A2. I'm not sure but I think I like it a tad more than the Aimpoint. I really want the Trijicon with the red dot mounted on top of it, but that's twice the money and not something I am willing to do at the moment!

May 13th, 2008, 04:01 PM	#16
aus71383 Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 1,618	What he's referring to is that with the EOTech you can have your head anywhere you want and as long as you can see the reticle you will hit the target. With the Aimpoint the dot should be centered on the glass for best accuracy - with the EOTech it doesn't matter. Austin

May 13th, 2008, 05:53 PM	#18
kaz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 59	Isn't the Reflex supposed to be accurate if it's not centered also? I've never put too much effort into centering the dot and never had any problem hitting my target. I've actually never tried to see how tight a group I could get with mine either though. I know they work with both eyes open.

May 13th, 2008, 10:37 PM	#20
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Runthegun, PA. Posts: 18,013	I should add that one huge advantage of the hologram is if you wear eyeglasses. For instance if you are "near sighted" and wear glasses to focus images that are far away - keeping your eyeglasses on - the lighted reticle inside the EoTech and the far away target will both be in sharp, crisp, focus with your eyeglasses on because the hologram reconstructs both the target and the superimposed reticle on the same plane of focus. It's amazing technology really. __________________ *Support Our Troops* How Very Fortunate You Are To Have Two Arms To Put Into A Ward 57 T-Shirt. DC MEMBERS ~ PLEASE BUY A WARD 57 SHIRT. Click Here.

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