cuban11182

Well I don't know if I want a black gun, but I may. And before the possible ban, I decided to go get 2 stripped lowers. One for myself and one for my father. DPMS for $114. Also found a guy that will give me the NC CCW Safety course for $65 this Sunday.

So who makes good M4 kits?

Thanks, Dave.

Rob99VMI04

Hate to tell you...Its not the lowers that will be banned.....

Its the 4-6 position stocks (because those are so horrible) God help us if a short 18 year old kid hits puperty late and now has to move his stock up two more positions. THINK OF THE CHILDREN! The Plastic veritical piece where your weak hand goes, the threads they cut into your barrel to make it except a super evil killer flash hider, the lug that lets you attach a pointy knife, the $5 pistol grip, the 14.99 GI Magzines that you can still get at gun shows for $10.

I'm forgetting a Barrell shroud. You know that thing that goes "UP!" Because those are so horrible and have taken the lifes of so many. Thank the lord they are getting rid of the barrel shroud.

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cuban11182

Ok....funny joke

dukalmighty

What he said,but if they do a total ban you won't be able to buy any new items threaded barrels or unthreaded barrels stocks,kits,I think that this time if they try to ban them it's not gonna be cosmetic it will be about banning the whole gun,the AR15 the AK clones the M1,anything capable of accepting large capacity magazines maybe even Ruger 10/22 you don't know how far it can try to go because most of the people writing this crap up have never touched a gun

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BAC

To answer your question, lots of people make kits, and good becomes a matter of how much you're willing to pay for quality control. Anvil Arms lower parts kits seem to be alright, and are priced well ($55). I've got one sitting in my upper-less parts gun. Everything went in fine, but without shooting it and running it at a course I can't make claims. DPMS will also run about $55 for a lower parts kit, Rock River Arms goes up to the $60-$70 range. Stag/CMT kits look like they're around the same.

The higher end (meaning, much greater quality control) kits cost more. LMT and Colt lower parts kits are going to cost about $100 more than any of the above, with Colt's being more expensive. You can find LMT parts kits here for $152 without the grip (a part most people swap out anyway), and Colt parts kits here (0.155)/here (0.170) at Secialized Armament Warehouse for $175.

Stocks you can get from a lot of places. Surplus A1 stock kits in usable condition you can snag for $45, but they're drying up quick and are harder to find (I got lucky). Current/new stock kits will cost something like $65-$75 for a standard A2 or standard adjustable stock. There are all kinds of stocks out there, depending on what you the shooter likes and are most comfortable with. The Magpul CTR is a great stock going for just under $100, and more expensive stocks can get upward $300.

Hope this helps.


-B

Ram Rod

Okay. Explain me this if you all would. So the lower has the serial number correct? Uppers don't right? Say there is a future ban. During the ban you have a few pre-ban lowers (identified pre-ban by serial number). Maybe you have some pre-ban parts like the collapsible stock, or a barrel with flash suppressor/bayonet lug etc....... Maybe even some pre-ban complete uppers. Wouldn't assembling any of these parts into complete rifles be illegal especially if you're mixing manufacturer parts? I don't mean to be a party pooper, but what's the scoop? We are talking the AR-15 of course.

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aus71383

I guess the lower is considered the rifle by the ATF, so when you buy a lower you own the rifle. Maybe this is not the case, I'm not a lawyer.

Austin

dukalmighty

As long as the lower is pre-ban you are okay,the problem would be if they make it illegal to sell any parts for the guns in the ban,no grandfather exempts whatever,it would be like if you're gun breaks there may not be any parts available to repair it,that would be a worse case scenario,also during last cosmetics ban IIRC unless you had a registered class 3 firearm and sent the paperwork you couldn't buy a collapsible stock that wasn't pinned or a threaded barrel or front sight with bayonet lug, high capacity mag over 10 rounds cost an arm and a leg.

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matiki

This my friends, is exactly what they've been trying to do.

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