Go Back   DefensiveCarry Concealed Carry Forum > Related Topics > Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion
Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Forum Donations DefensiveCarry Store DefensiveCarry Gallery USGO Gallery Related Links Forum Help & Extras

Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion This is the place for sniper, assault, military, law enforcement and virtually every type of defensive rifle or shotgun.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old July 24th, 2008, 12:02 AM   #21
Senior Moderator
 
rocky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MI
Posts: 13,079
rocky is a forum contributor
Most AR makers build a reliable rifle. If you want to pay more for a higher end rifle you can , however how much more reliability is worth the cost? Consider for home defense , you probably will only fire 5-10 rounds if that.
I feel my Stag or Bushmaster rifles will be just fine for what I need it for.
__________________
"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson


Nemo Me Impune Lacesset

Link to my kydex builds:http://rocknloadkydex.blogspot.com/
rocky is offline  
Old July 24th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #22
VIP Member
 
retsupt99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 22,750
retsupt99 is a forum contributor
My BushMaster will serve me well... ( I did add an EO Tech.)
__________________
"That I cannot do."

"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."


***********************************

NRA Life Member
retsupt99 is offline  
Old July 24th, 2008, 12:44 AM   #23
Distinguished Member
 
SatCong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,603
SatCong
Had three 1 was DPMS not too good, 2. Rock River, shot great, work all the time, just one thing it wasn't cool enough for me, didn't say I was smart. Number 3 is cool looking BushMaster been a big pain in the A%$ from day one.If I buy another one it well be a RockRiver again.
__________________
NRA PATRON LIFE
SatCong is offline  
Old July 24th, 2008, 12:46 AM   #24
Senior Member
 
ssssthesnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: utah
Posts: 554
ssssthesnake is a forum contributor
i agree buy a bush master ect... and spend the extra loot on goodys for it. iv said it before ar and .45 are the testostrone driven equivalent of a barby doll you can build it to suite you
ssssthesnake is offline  
Old July 24th, 2008, 09:03 PM   #25
Member
 
Skygod's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 494
Skygod
Les Baer is probably akin to purchasing a Nighthawk Custom 1911 or Wilson Combat.

Les Baers AR15's are a rare breed in that they are semi custom rifles in a genre that boasts about things like Chrome molly and chrome lined barrels when all of Les Baers offerins are generally a stainless match grade fluted barrel with a rather speedy competition type rifling, what is referred to as "bench rest cut rifling" He also uses a 1/8 twist which a decent comprimise between being overstabilized and not stabilized enough, depending your ammunition selection.

If you purchase a Les Baer AR15 your purchasing the high end Mercedes or BMW of the AR15 lineup. Everything else is just a Honda, maybe with some an Acura.

As I described in another thread, I inherited a Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special AR15 and with some minor modifications to the stock and grip and the additon of fancy optics, mounts and a light and BI-POD it's the envy of every AR15 shooter on the range.

It comes with an 6000 series rail system, but this particular design has the side and bottom rails only towards the front of the rail system with some nice looking ports in the bottom for air cooling. If you want a full rails system Les Baer is willing to swap it out on the Thunder Ranch Special to a full rail system for just over $200. I haven't had this option done yet, but it's on the list since I would like to run a vertical foregrip on the bottom rail. As it sits, it's the prettiest rifle of all my AR's and it shoots with so much precision it's hard to even comprehend that any .223/5.56 is capable of holding such a small group out to 100 meters off the bench.
__________________
Perhaps your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.
Skygod is offline  
Old July 24th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #26
New Member
 
indicium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: atlanta, ga
Posts: 10
indicium
Rock River for .223/5.65 (AR-15)
Armalite for .308/7.62x51 (AR-10)
indicium is offline  
Old July 24th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #27
Distinguished Member
 
SatCong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,603
SatCong
Skygod, you have right, You pay for Les Bear but it's great.
__________________
NRA PATRON LIFE
SatCong is offline  
Old July 25th, 2008, 01:35 AM   #28
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 125
ellerblr
I don't have much first hand experience with AR's, nor do I yet own one, but from the factfinding that I've done I narrowed it down to CMMG, Noveske, and RRA.
ellerblr is offline  
Old July 25th, 2008, 08:23 AM   #29
Distinguished Member
 
aus71383's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: United States
Posts: 1,863
aus71383 is a forum contributor
For me, the lack of reliability is not worth the discount for a HD weapon, which is why I said Colt, Noveske, LMT. There are lots of good ARs out there and most of them will work just fine - but that's not good enough for betting my life on.

Austin
aus71383 is offline  
Old July 25th, 2008, 10:37 AM   #30
VIP Member
 
Rob72's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: OK
Posts: 3,468
Rob72
The one Jesus built....
Rob72 is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:44 AM.


bestBest selection of rifle scopes, holsters, belts, pouches, gun accessories, gun cases, dry boxes, flashlights, night vision, binoculars, sunglasses. Information and 1000's of military, law enforcement, tactical gear from OpticsPlanet and Tactical Store w/ FREE UPS! Top brands - 5.11, Bianchi, BlackHawk, Bushnell, EOT ech, Leupold, Pelican, Galco, Fobus, Safariland, Steiner, StreamLight, SureFire, Nikon, Trijicon, UnderArmour, Uncle Mike's, Wiley X,


CopsPlus Police Equipment
Police Equipment at CopsPlus.com

Hosted ByTranquil Hosting

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright DefensiveCarry.com © 2004-2009