MY rifle thread

TheHun · July 30th, 2008, 06:33 AM

I am not really hooked on rifles...never was. Shot rifles when I was a kid, military etc.
I love shooting pistols I am an active competition shooter.
The reason why I want a rifle cause it looks like Barrack Osama or Hitlery Clinton is coming. You know bans shtf etc. everybody is buying rifles now.
Not planning to shoot three gun with it so it doesn't have to be an AR.
But AR's are just so sexy. Respect the 7.62 round (AK) and they tend to be more reliable.
Semi auto shotguns could be used as a home defence weapon also.
(BTW who sells some nice semi auto shotguns. Benelli is for LEO's only.) But I think I just stick to my .45 easier to maneuver with it in an apartment and it's close by....rifle would be in the safe I bet.

So my future rifle wouldn't be a HD weapon more like like a shtf rifle.
I live in a city and over penetration with rifle calibers would be an issue I think.
I don't hunt and won't either. No need for a hunting rifle.
Basically I am looking the have something if a riot (like LA) or Katrina like aftermath happens.
I don't really look at pistol caliber rifles, I just don't see the point....my 1911 with a 10 round mag (10+1) is a formidable firepower.

If you Guys have anything to add this thread....I would appreciate it.

dukalmighty · July 30th, 2008, 06:38 AM

In a SHTF scenario over penetration will be the least of your worrys,Best thing to look for would be availability of ammo and spare parts,Also benelli shotguns aren't for LE only

Ram Rod · July 30th, 2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

So my future rifle wouldn't be a HD weapon more like like a shtf rifle.
I live in a city and over penetration with rifle calibers would be an issue I think.

For me, a true SHTF rifle and over-penetration would be a non-issue. Those two terms kind of cancel each other out if you follow me. Either the AR-15 or the AK would be a must have for those situations. That's why I have both, and it would be a flip of the coin to see which one I'd pick up first, but it might very well be the 7.62x39.

TheHun · July 30th, 2008, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukalmighty

In a SHTF scenario over penetration will be the least of your worrys,Best thing to look for would be availability of ammo and spare parts,Also benelli shotguns aren't for LE only

When I was saying over penetration I was thinking about HD rifles. My bad.
On the Benelli website it says for Law Enforcement only <--- the semi auto shotguns.
Yeah ammo availability is a good one. So basically a 223 - 5.56 would be a better option? (Did I just say AR15?

)

Well in a shtf scenario I think a 7.62 would be putting down things like no tomorrow. I can't picture somebody staying in a fight after taking a (few) hit by 7.62's
I wouldn't go bear hunting with 223 tho.
Anyways let's not to turn this to a 223 vs 7.62 thread.

What can do a shotgun in longer distances?
Yeah I am clueless about rifles, shotguns.
I have been reading all these AR AK threads...but still could't come up with the solution...

Ram Rod · July 30th, 2008, 07:37 AM

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Anyways let's not to turn this to a 223 vs 7.62 thread.

I wouldn't ever think of that. Again...that's why I have both.

dukalmighty · July 30th, 2008, 07:57 AM

The only reason a Benelli shotgun would be LE only is if it is a short barreled shotgun under 18" but a civilian could still posess it if he wanted to pay 200 for a tax stamp and the paperwork

goldshellback · July 30th, 2008, 08:06 AM

A shotgun, in reality, has an effictive range around 50 yds. That range can be slightly extended with quality slugs, but I tend to stick with buckshot. It's an excellent HD/riot/SHTF firearm.

As for rifles, I stick with 7.62/.308 or better calibers. After Katrina I got to sit and talk with my dad and some of the neighbors. Some of the lessons learned involved having the bigger bore rifles availiable during the immediate aftermath
......... the various ".22" calibers were good but if the "really bad stuff" started coming thier way, it was shotty's and '30 calibers' that would have been utilized. Overpenatration wasn't even thought about. I still wouldn't knock the 223 and if I have my way I'll have a few more before January. I'd feel pretty good about having either one and Ammo availability would be a concern for an extended "lights out" period.

An AK would be a good long gun

atctimmy · July 30th, 2008, 11:11 AM

Here are some ideas:

Model 1100™ TAC

http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossb.../New/85360.jpg

cvhoss · July 30th, 2008, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHun

..........
On the Benelli website it says for Law Enforcement only <--- the semi auto shotguns...

You must have hit their LE only section. Try here for their semi offerings. This one's mine.

Hoss

HotGuns · July 30th, 2008, 01:46 PM

In a true SHTF scenario, penetration is your friend.

Forget everything you ever learned about over penetration and use it to your advantage.

Badguy in the next room? Shoot through the walls.
Its one of the reasons that our troops are issued FMJ bullets.

July 30th, 2008, 06:33 AM	#1
TheHun Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: area 1 Posts: 112	MY rifle thread I am not really hooked on rifles...never was. Shot rifles when I was a kid, military etc. I love shooting pistols I am an active competition shooter. The reason why I want a rifle cause it looks like Barrack Osama or Hitlery Clinton is coming. You know bans shtf etc. everybody is buying rifles now. Not planning to shoot three gun with it so it doesn't have to be an AR. But AR's are just so sexy. Respect the 7.62 round (AK) and they tend to be more reliable. Semi auto shotguns could be used as a home defence weapon also. (BTW who sells some nice semi auto shotguns. Benelli is for LEO's only.) But I think I just stick to my .45 easier to maneuver with it in an apartment and it's close by....rifle would be in the safe I bet. So my future rifle wouldn't be a HD weapon more like like a shtf rifle. I live in a city and over penetration with rifle calibers would be an issue I think. I don't hunt and won't either. No need for a hunting rifle. Basically I am looking the have something if a riot (like LA) or Katrina like aftermath happens. I don't really look at pistol caliber rifles, I just don't see the point....my 1911 with a 10 round mag (10+1) is a formidable firepower. If you Guys have anything to add this thread....I would appreciate it. __________________ I carry a gun cause I can't carry a cop.

July 30th, 2008, 06:38 AM	#2
dukalmighty VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: texas Posts: 3,392	In a SHTF scenario over penetration will be the least of your worrys,Best thing to look for would be availability of ammo and spare parts,Also benelli shotguns aren't for LE only __________________ I like Poetry,Long Walks On The Beach,And Poking Dead Things With A Stick

July 30th, 2008, 07:57 AM	#6
dukalmighty VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: texas Posts: 3,392	The only reason a Benelli shotgun would be LE only is if it is a short barreled shotgun under 18" but a civilian could still posess it if he wanted to pay 200 for a tax stamp and the paperwork __________________ I like Poetry,Long Walks On The Beach,And Poking Dead Things With A Stick

July 30th, 2008, 08:06 AM	#7
goldshellback VIP Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: St. Mayberry, GA Posts: 2,042	A shotgun, in reality, has an effictive range around 50 yds. That range can be slightly extended with quality slugs, but I tend to stick with buckshot. It's an excellent HD/riot/SHTF firearm. As for rifles, I stick with 7.62/.308 or better calibers. After Katrina I got to sit and talk with my dad and some of the neighbors. Some of the lessons learned involved having the bigger bore rifles availiable during the immediate aftermath ......... the various ".22" calibers were good but if the "really bad stuff" started coming thier way, it was shotty's and '30 calibers' that would have been utilized. Overpenatration wasn't even thought about. I still wouldn't knock the 223 and if I have my way I'll have a few more before January. I'd feel pretty good about having either one and Ammo availability would be a concern for an extended "lights out" period. An AK would be a good long gun __________________ "Just getting a concealed carry permit means you haven't commited a crime yet........CCP holders commit crimes." Daniel Vice, senior attorney for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, as quoted on Fox & Friends, July 7th, 2008

July 30th, 2008, 11:11 AM	#8
atctimmy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In the man cave Posts: 1,123	Here are some ideas: Model 1100™ TAC http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossb.../New/85360.jpg __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! - I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry

July 30th, 2008, 01:46 PM	#10
HotGuns Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,901	In a true SHTF scenario, penetration is your friend. Forget everything you ever learned about over penetration and use it to your advantage. Badguy in the next room? Shoot through the walls. Its one of the reasons that our troops are issued FMJ bullets. __________________ AR. CHL Instr. To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.' Dr. G. Brock Chisolm

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