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AR pistol grips...Why? Also, anyone have the one with bipod that pops out?
I gotta say, they don't look to be very comfortable or make a stable shooting platform, but I've never held one, let alone shot with one. With their popularity though, I've gotta that they do more than just get in the way. What are your reasons for having one or not? Are they useful, or just tacti-cool?
Also, the only real reason I'm considering one is because I see one with a bipod that pops out of the bottom. Is this a useful bi-pod, as bi-pods go or is it junk?
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I have one, and it's nice for the standing shooting position, or the tactical employment which most of us don't practice a lot of. It adds some forward weight, and it can be a good location for light or laser pressure pad switches attached to black-sticky backed velcro. For most of these forward grips, you'll need a quad rail handguard, or rail underneath to attach to. Mine is not currently attached to my AR-15 although it is a nice option, and I do use it. Bipods....? Bipods only come in handy at the range bench, or a long range or high-power match. Otherwise, the bipods are reserved for the 10-14lb long range venue in my opinion. Police might like bipods also, for shooting off the hood of the cruiser......I don't like scratching my hood. My bipods are detachable and rely on the sling swivel stud. Again.....forward heavy if they are attached in a standing or moving firing position. Then again...they are removable, and cool to have depending on what you want. Look to the practical applications for true answers............what is the US military using? What do the soldiers like? If it's popular with them in battle conditions, then it's surely worth having. Your combined forward grip/bipod sounds like a hassle to me and forward heavy. It might get some oooo's and aaahhhs from your friends or shooting buddies, but if you can use it....what's the use? I wouldn't spend too much, better spent on ammo or cleaning supplies. That's just my opinion.
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I have a vertical grip that springs out into a bipod. It was on sale and I wanted something that would let me be more accurate at the range. It works so far. Plus, by holding onto the grip that far forward and in that position, it helps keep a handle on muzzle flip.
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My understanding is a Vert grip helps in control of a full auto or burst fired weapon. Some people like em, I found it didn't help, but made my off hand shooting less stable.
The Grip pod might make more sense as you can rest it on a table, ect for steadier shots.
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The foregrip is utilized by some SOG team members and also some SWAT team members,I think it boils down to what you are comfortable with.I have paralysis of my right hand and it's hard to grip a normal forearm for me but the vertical grip allows me a full firm grip to control the muzzle,also some of the grips are firm enough to use as a monopod instead of using the forearm as support and gives you about 4" in more height if you need it.I think i read a story about the bipod and in combat in Iraq it would spring out of the grip without hitting the release,My mind ain't as sharp as it once was but like you I have researched a lot of accessories for my AR15's and pretty much have them where I want them,I go have a detachable bipod like ramrod was talking about and they are fairly inexpensive and can be taken off when not needed,It does weigh about 1 1/2 pounds
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Joe Gadinni sent me one of his GRIP PODS when he serviced one of my suppressors.
I used for a long time on one of my AR's and not only is it a great vertical foregrip it give the shooter a stable platform from which to fire from the prone position. I like them and it beats using your mag as a psuedo "Mono Pod" I wound up sending it off to another Special Forces soldier with 7th SFG (A) He's currently using it in the sandbox. Good stuff. ETA: As to the "Why?" part of your question it boils down to several attributes. One is simply the ability to stabilize the weapon during repeated fire and auto fire. Some prefer them some do not. I think as of now most are using them after some hemming and hawwing as to their importance during repeated fire. Lastly, the ability use the remote pressure pads for the lights and IR laser pointers is much more easily accomplished by having those pressure sensitive pads on the vertical foregrip rather than up on the rail or handguards.
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If you want to just try it out. They make an "airsoft" grip pod that sells for about $15 or so.
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I feel the forward pistol grip gives you better overall weapon control. Its easier to hang on to then just the rails if someone grabs the barrel in close quarters. It also aids in muzzle strikes. And it took me a while to get used to it but these days I find it more comfortable even in the prone. The only downside is it tends to poke me while slung
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