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Old September 9th, 2008, 11:37 PM   #1
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M44 Mosin Nagant

Bought a M44 Mosin Nagant rifle
at the local Gander Mountain store
a few weeks ago for 99 bucks.
Best gun I have ever bought for
the money. Shoots a 7.62*54R round
Very powerful, accurate and rugged.
Anyone have thoughts on the round or
rifle?
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Old September 9th, 2008, 11:47 PM   #2
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Yes.
Good round, as good as anything out there.
Rifles are kind of primitive but they work.
No one that I know that has even gotten one, stopped at one, they do have a way of multiplying.
I have 2 M-44's and the longer version, the 91/30.
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Old September 10th, 2008, 08:09 AM   #3
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I enjoy mine, here's the ammo.
2 New Guns!!!!
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Old September 10th, 2008, 11:08 AM   #4
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The M44 is a good cheap shooter. Centry International Arms has 440rd ammo packs for cheap. I almost bought another one this Monday for $89 at my local Big5 in Tucson. Have fun shooting, they kick like a mule.
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I've had many of them. At one time I had 12. I gave one to the boy for his
18th birthday. That ought to mean that I have 11 left, but I haven't counted. I've got like 10,000 rounds of ammo, too.

Everything you hear about them is true: they multiply like rabbits, they are more fun than a barrel of monkeys and they kick like mules.

Very loud report and impressive muzzle flash, as well.

One tip: if you can find it, Czech Hollow Core 46-grain training ammo is great, great fun. It doesn't kick nearly as much as the standard issue stuff (148-182-grains) and it is just as loud and makes just as big a flash.

It's really fun to take someone shooting with two M44's: you shoot the hollow core stuff and whistle soft lullabies to yourself all afternoon - - while giving your guest a few hundred rounds of the full-bore stuff to shoot until he's had enough.

He'll think you're Tarzan.
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Old September 10th, 2008, 12:10 PM   #6
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I like the nice soft square steel butt pads that the soviets put on them.

They were designed to be shot and maintained by peasants and are very hard to destroy
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Old September 10th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #7
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It's really fun to take someone shooting with two M44's: you shoot the hollow core stuff and whistle soft lullabies to yourself all afternoon - - while giving your guest a few hundred rounds of the full-bore stuff to shoot until he's had enough.

He'll think you're Tarzan.
Now that's funny!
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Old September 11th, 2008, 12:39 AM   #8
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Here is the opinion of author Mike Williamson, from his column on "The Ten Manliest Firearms". 10 Manliest Firearms: by Michael Z. Williamson, SMLE, Mosin-Nagant M44, Swiss K31 Carbine, Remington 870

"Speaking of guns without safeties, here's the Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine from Russia. The Mosin was used by the Russians against the Finns, the Finns against the Russians, the Estonians against the Russians, the Russians against the Russians, and the Russians against the Germans. It does, in fact, have a safety, but it's quite hard to engage. But this is not a complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer would reply, "Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in locating warriors! No safety!" while pounding his fist on the table.

And the Mosin can kill enemies of homeland. The muzzle blast will vaporize green growth within a few feet of the muzzle, and even if you miss, the enemy will be reduced to shouting "WHAT?" to communicate. You'll need a recoil pad or shooting jacket. Ordinarily, this might be considered unmanly, but this rifle has a short stock for using while wearing several layers of wool for a Russian winter. It is acceptable to wear padding to fire a Mosin.

Of course, there are also M38, 91/30 and other variations of Mosin-Nagant and all are cool. All, also (except the M38), come with a bayonet. Russian doctrine held that the bayonet was mounted except while traveling in a vehicle, because the Russians understood that an empty rifle could still be a pointy stick—a Viking spear. The Russians loved to spear Turks. So, coincidentally, did the Vikings. This rifle sounds better all the time, doesn't it? The Finns used the Mosin as a sniper rifle during the Winter War, and their greatest Sniper was Simo Häyhä, who had 500 confirmed kills in 100 days. This is a man the Finns describe as "modest" and "self-effacing." It's a good thing the Russians didn't run into a Finn who was proud and arrogant. They'd have been wiped out.

It fires a 7.62X54R (for "Rimmed") cartridge, about as powerful as .30-06, and holds the distinction of being in service from 1891 to the present, longer than any other military cartridge. It is still used in Dragunovs, PKMs and other Russian weapons. It's cheap in quantity. So are the rifles, because they were built for (all variations) over 70 years, by Russia, Finland, Poland, Romania, even the US."
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Old September 11th, 2008, 01:32 AM   #9
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love my M44 and 91/30, they are shoulder beaters.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 01:27 PM   #10
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I am waiting on more ammo for mine, its about m44 shooting time again.
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