ExSoldier

I stand corrected. It sure looks like the BM59, tho. However, as I did correctly remark...it's not a Springfield Armory. The short article I read at the link stated that there seem to be problems in the gas system of this M14 variant. They were trying to adapt the gas system of the M60LMG. I personally loved the M60's but some of them jammed a lot. Could have been the gas system.

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spacemanspiff

back to original questions, between socom and scout, since you indicate your max range is going to be 100 yards, the socom would be just fine. i am told (havent confirmed this) by a friend who has the socom that at distances out to 300 yards and beyond, that short barrel just drops the bullet faster than kirstie alley can drop a gallon of nonfat icecream.

personally, i have seen several socoms have failures due to poor quality control. both on the range and in the shop. we have also seen several people bring us their socoms to consign, talking like 4 in the past month.

until SA gets their QC back in order i'll hold off getting a new socom. and thats the one i'd pick, partly because i think the socom would make an adequate bear defense rifle as well. for the rare times i venture away from the city and into the wild.

BigJon

Yep. I tried exactly the same thing about 6 years ago - same result. Seems to me (my aging memory nothwithstanding) that someone DID have one on the market just before that, but I hit the search a hair too late.

Best,
Jon

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ExSoldier

Unfair shot at Kirstie Alley! I myself lost over 40 pounds on Jenny Craig.

Okay. DAGNABBIT, I was counting on the SOCOM because of the interchangeability of mags with my superb M1A. My next choice would be a DSA FAL carbine. What's the word on those?

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Otis

The DSA might be a good option for me as well since they have "California" models. This sure is the wrong state for someone who likes guns.

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OD

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I believe these were made on the Springfield Armory (the original), Winchester, Harrington & Richardson Arms Co. and Thompson-Ramo-Wooldridge (TRW).

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rfurtkamp

Dodge a muzzle brake if it all possible - short barrels aren't that much louder.

I expected to be deafened and stunned by my HK-51 clone throwing 308 out of a 8.5" barrel.

I'm less than either - but it's fun to shoot and no louder or blastier than any of my other 308s.

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Otis

Just purchased a new SA Socom 2. Pick it up on the 7th, go shooting on the 8th! I decided against the California legal FAL rifles because they have a fixed magazine. We're not allowed to have a detachable magazine and a pistol grip on the same gun, you can only have one or the other. F-ing California......