BigJon

First, if I'm firing at someone, then I am in fear of at least grave bodily harm and need to get the threat immediately stopped.

Second, I know that in order to stop the threat, I may be forced to physically turn the attacker's switch off with my firearm.

Third, I know that ammo that WILL shut the attacker down is widely available.

Fourth, there are tools available that really are less-than-lethal, if that's all one needs to address a threat, and a rock-salt load could be MORE deadly than these.

With those being the case, why would I purposefully load the weapon with something that WON'T shut the attacker down if that becomes necessary?

Best,
Jon

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P95Carry

All agree I think. Myself included.

I only brought it up as something I had come across - seemingly as someone's idea of a less than lethal approach! Thx for replies.

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BigJon

Righto. After thinkin' about it some more, I think the problem that I have with it is the comparative uncertainty as to how the round will ultimately perform. If you need it to be lethal, it may not be. And it might be lethal even though you intended it not to be. Since there are lethal and non-lethal forms of ammo that would be better suited to either task, I would think that intentionally loading the firearm with something of less-certain performance could give rise to a strong argument that the act was reckless.

Best,
Jon

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CZ52

In my field, I have had to evaluate a number of Less than lethal options, should the need arise. Rubber rockets, rubber buckshot, pepper payloads and beanbag rounds all have a place at times.

These can be obtained by non-LE citizens at hi-vel.com or firequest.com. Some are very spendy. Be aware that any of the LTL rounds can be deadly if used in close proximity.

~CZ

BigEd63

And what of the plastic shot wad?

Imagine dumping out shot loading in rock salt or even red pepper, shooting at some perp with less than lethal intent but the shot wade spins up into his face crushing his eye ball.

Think of the charges and lawsuits to follow. So I'd say nope to that myself.

fotomaker57

I saw the effect of rock salt on the back side of two buddies in the The 7th grade. We had an orange grove behind our school and every once in a while we would jump the fence and help our selves to a snack. Well the old farmer got tired of our pilfering and one day a couple of buddies jumped the fence a few moment later we heard shooting and screaming. These two young men flew past us like they were on fire, which their back sides were, and went straight for the showers. Well we all took off after them and they hit the water dropping their pants trying to wash the salt out. I must say we all got a good laugh out of that after words. It also goes without saying no more oranges for lunch.
Mike

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RSSZ

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F350

All I have to say on this subject is....

I lost my taste for watermelon for a couple years late one night