"The Bushmaster is known as a cheap gun"

JT · February 16th, 2006, 04:15 PM

I googled Bushmaster’s website (I don’t know why I didn’t just try bushmaster.com), and I noticed that the second site that comes up, is this gem of an article from a few years back. See if you can count the inaccuracies in this short article. Fun for the whole family.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/Sout...fle/index.html

Bushmaster .223: Accurate, inexpensive

Thursday, October 24, 2002 Posted: 5:44 PM EDT (2144 GMT)

(CNN) -- The Bushmaster .223 rifle is less popular among game hunters than its name suggests.

But, like the venomous snake for which it is named, the high-powered rifle is deadly.

The gun, according to Eric Haney, a retired U.S. Army sergeant major, is "for those who want the general feel of a military weapon." It's the semi-automatic version of the civilian model of the U.S. military M-16 manufactured by Colt.

A Bushmaster weapon, according to a law enforcement source, was found inside the car of the sniper suspects arrested October 24.

The weapon is sufficient for target shooting long distances, said Haney, who served with the U.S. Army's elite Delta Force in the 1970s and 1980s and was one of its founding members.

"I would have been very surprised if they had not found a scope on that weapon," Haney said. With a scope, the shooter is able to find targets at night more easily, he said.

The Bushmaster make is one of the less expensive models of the of the semi-automatic rifle, usually costing between $500 and $600, he said. "The Bushmaster is known as a cheap gun," Haney said.

Nor is it hard to operate.

"[It's easy to use] for the type of shooting we saw in the Washington area," Haney said. "Almost an 8-year-old child can be taught to do that in an hour, and hour-and-a-half."

rocky · February 16th, 2006, 04:20 PM

$500-$600 ? yeah right, find me 1 for that much, I'll buy it.
Long range? Maybe with a competent shooter and no wind.
High powered? Compared to what? A .22 LR?
Scope at night, well maybe easier to see than irons if some light is avalible.
Also most Bushmaster rifles are chambered in 5.56mm X 45.
If this was in reguard to those DC (snipers) they were not snipers by any means.

500Mag · February 16th, 2006, 04:50 PM

First thing I noticed before I even read the article was CNN. Why do I not have confidence in this story from the beginning?

How about the picture in the article. Unless the Bushy in the pic is pre '94 AWB, then I see some items on there that are a no-no for the '02 date of the article.

I'll second that price comment from rocky, find me one for that cheap and I'll buy a dozen. They also fail to mention that a scope would double their "inexpensive" cost.

Bud White · February 16th, 2006, 05:55 PM

to many things to count

Euclidean · February 16th, 2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT

"[It's easy to use] for the type of shooting we saw in the Washington area," Haney said. "Almost an 8-year-old child can be taught to do that in an hour, and hour-and-a-half."

I'd laugh so hard if not for the fact people will have read this and think it's true.

P.S. I figured out how to shoot it in about 30 seconds. Now I'm not saying I became proficient with it, but I figured out how to put in a cartridge and make it come out the muzzle.

P95Carry · February 16th, 2006, 07:47 PM

''Gem'' of an article!! ?

Indeed - a hype trip!!!

Nasty dark colored evil militaristic horrible guns

Oops - forgot to add 'assault'' tsk tsk!

srfl · February 16th, 2006, 11:58 PM

....the Bushy is a "cheap" gun? Compared to what? A Red Ryder BB gun?

acparmed · February 17th, 2006, 01:47 AM

I don't understand how Eric Haney could come up with such tripe.

Haney is THE REAL DEAL when it comes to a Special Forces resume'. This guy is one of the founding members of Delta Force.

I guess that after the Army he doesn't have a way to make enough money except to go on CNN and state what he knows is a lie, to be the truth. What in the hell happened to his integrity? I don't get it.

triggerjunky · March 11th, 2006, 01:03 AM

That artical is not worth the hypothetical paper its printed on.

LMarshall73 · March 13th, 2006, 11:57 PM

The Bushys used to be the cheap AR-15 variants. When I bought my Colt Sporter Lightweight in 96 or 97 for $700 (NIB), my roomate picked up a Bushy with heavy barrel, carry case and a spare magazine for around $500 (NIB).

February 16th, 2006, 04:15 PM	#1
JT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 1,099	"The Bushmaster is known as a cheap gun" I googled Bushmaster’s website (I don’t know why I didn’t just try bushmaster.com), and I noticed that the second site that comes up, is this gem of an article from a few years back. See if you can count the inaccuracies in this short article. Fun for the whole family. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/Sout...fle/index.html Bushmaster .223: Accurate, inexpensive Thursday, October 24, 2002 Posted: 5:44 PM EDT (2144 GMT) (CNN) -- The Bushmaster .223 rifle is less popular among game hunters than its name suggests. But, like the venomous snake for which it is named, the high-powered rifle is deadly. The gun, according to Eric Haney, a retired U.S. Army sergeant major, is "for those who want the general feel of a military weapon." It's the semi-automatic version of the civilian model of the U.S. military M-16 manufactured by Colt. A Bushmaster weapon, according to a law enforcement source, was found inside the car of the sniper suspects arrested October 24. The weapon is sufficient for target shooting long distances, said Haney, who served with the U.S. Army's elite Delta Force in the 1970s and 1980s and was one of its founding members. "I would have been very surprised if they had not found a scope on that weapon," Haney said. With a scope, the shooter is able to find targets at night more easily, he said. The Bushmaster make is one of the less expensive models of the of the semi-automatic rifle, usually costing between $500 and $600, he said. "The Bushmaster is known as a cheap gun," Haney said. Nor is it hard to operate. "[It's easy to use] for the type of shooting we saw in the Washington area," Haney said. "Almost an 8-year-old child can be taught to do that in an hour, and hour-and-a-half." __________________ Blessed be the Lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle. Psalm 144:1 Si vis pacem, para bellum

February 16th, 2006, 04:50 PM	#3
500Mag Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 390	First thing I noticed before I even read the article was CNN. Why do I not have confidence in this story from the beginning? How about the picture in the article. Unless the Bushy in the pic is pre '94 AWB, then I see some items on there that are a no-no for the '02 date of the article. I'll second that price comment from rocky, find me one for that cheap and I'll buy a dozen. They also fail to mention that a scope would double their "inexpensive" cost. __________________ "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

February 16th, 2006, 07:47 PM	#6
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	''Gem'' of an article!! ? Indeed - a hype trip!!! Nasty dark colored evil militaristic horrible guns Oops - forgot to add 'assault'' tsk tsk! __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

February 16th, 2006, 11:58 PM	#7
srfl Senior Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: FL Posts: 6,432	....the Bushy is a "cheap" gun? Compared to what? A Red Ryder BB gun? __________________ USAF: Loving Our Obscene Amenities Since 1947

February 17th, 2006, 01:47 AM	#8
acparmed 1952 - 2006 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 1,371	I don't understand how Eric Haney could come up with such tripe. Haney is THE REAL DEAL when it comes to a Special Forces resume'. This guy is one of the founding members of Delta Force. I guess that after the Army he doesn't have a way to make enough money except to go on CNN and state what he knows is a lie, to be the truth. What in the hell happened to his integrity? I don't get it. __________________ Heroes are people who do what has to be done, when it has to be done, regardless of the consequences "I like when the enemy shoots at me; then I know where the ****** are and can kill them." ~George Patton DE OPPRESSO LIBER**

February 16th, 2006, 04:20 PM	#2
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 11,767	$500-$600 ? yeah right, find me 1 for that much, I'll buy it. Long range? Maybe with a competent shooter and no wind. High powered? Compared to what? A .22 LR? Scope at night, well maybe easier to see than irons if some light is avalible. Also most Bushmaster rifles are chambered in 5.56mm X 45. If this was in reguard to those DC (snipers) they were not snipers by any means.

February 16th, 2006, 05:55 PM	#4
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	to many things to count

March 11th, 2006, 01:03 AM	#9
triggerjunky Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 54	That artical is not worth the hypothetical paper its printed on. __________________ *Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, fast is deadly.*

March 13th, 2006, 11:57 PM	#10
LMarshall73 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South East US Posts: 200	The Bushys used to be the cheap AR-15 variants. When I bought my Colt Sporter Lightweight in 96 or 97 for $700 (NIB), my roomate picked up a Bushy with heavy barrel, carry case and a spare magazine for around $500 (NIB).

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