Ti Carry

True That! I just don't know why the rep wouldn't tell him that. To much liability involved. Think about it.


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Rob72

100%. Unless you have a rifle issued to you, approved by your unit/dept for that weight, on letterhead, you will not get that service from anyone. Get a Jard, Timney, or stock PSS trigger pack (my preference was Timney), and get a competent smith to adjust it.

Edit to add: Ti, it probably has to do with the fact that they will do it, just not for the average civvie.

duckhunter

The latest issue of Field and Stream has an article about the most popular sporting guns of all time. In pretty much every single survey a Remington product was #1, generally by a large margin. The Rem 700 took every rifle category, and the 870 took the waterfowl, turkey, and upland bird shotgun honors.

It is disappointing that the most popular firearms manufacturer in the country (according to this survey) doesn't back their products a little better.

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Rob72

The Rem 700 is the "alternative" classic action (other than the Mauser '98 and Win'64). Remington has a deserved reputation for both quality and service. Now, unless there is more to the story, it's not a Remington problem. In short (from the initial post):

1) An aftermarket trigger was installed, release weight set at the 2.5-3.0# range. The rifle would then discharge on closing the bolt. The problem: the sear/striker connection is inadequate. The solution: replace the triggerpack & test. If the problem does not re-occur, the triggerpack that was adjusted originally was bad(out of spec). If the problem re-occurs, the striker is bad, and Rem will replace that as well. Sounds like a square deal, to me. If the trigger was factory, and I misunderstood what was posted, the same applies.

Game does not need to be taken with a "light" trigger. Paper-punching by the average shooter doesn't "need" more than a smooth 4-6#.(I wouldn't be happy with 6# either, but, as I've said before, my own integrity/competence/etc., is the only one I can speak for.)

2) The owner wants a competition setting (police/service marksmen stay around the 3.0-3.5# range), with the <3.0# request, NO SERVICE DEPT WILL RELEASE SUCH A RIFLE. Unless your name is "Tubb". Sending out a rifle to Jim-Bob, with a trigger he can literally pee on, and discharge, is a no-no. Your own smith will have you sign the work order, and he will (or should) document your acknowledgement of the grade of setting (essentially BR only), when done locally. Depending on how well acquainted the smith is with you(or not), you may be refused there, depending also on your appearance, and how you "handle yourself".

Having said this, please note:
I no longer own a PSS- I traded for a Steyr Tac. The PSS was scaled at 2.8#, and was "friggin' scarey", to folks not into precision rifles. My Steyr is a tad over 3.0#, but I've HIGH polished the connections, so it "feels" much lighter. I "tinker". I've "tinkered" on $2K guns, for guys that know me. With the bare-bones description of the exchange with Remington, absolutely nothing sounds like it was out of line. If the owner really is competent with, and can appreciate, a trigger like that, he should understand. He sounds a little new to "touch-n-go" rifles, or at least the building/working-up end. I would second finding a good local smith, or calling McMillen, Robar, H-S Precision, possibly even Smith Enterprises- though they specialize in the M-1A/M-14 platform. Mentioning "2.5#" to most guys that shoot will get you a raised eye-brow, and sideways looks for a reason. That's very damn light.

Edit to add: I would not walk down-range leaving my own rifle, with the 2.8# trigger, sitting on the bench, with the bolt in the rifle.

Also adding: The discharge-on-closing "problem" is not uncommon, with <3.5# setting attempts, and requires careful work and not infrequently a few strikers and trigger packs, to get a safe, functional, combo. This is why it is not recommended or suggested, for "the average Joe".

Rob72

Sorry for the long post! I'm not a Professional Gunsmith, nor do I play one on TV. I have made some relatively expensive errors, on my own efforts(on my own weapons!!!). They did not become "dangerous" because of good advice from the more experienced, pre- and post-, and a strongly inquisitive nature on my part!