JD

In that aspect, yes. But putting two people on a skateboard does not a car pool make.

The term "Home defense" shotgun is because that is what the gun is being used for. You average "civilian" will not be assaulting or battling anything with their rifle....




So unless your an LEO, 0311, 11B etc, it's just a damn rifle.

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The definition of assault rifle is an intermediate range rifle capable of full and semi auto fire. The idea was invented by the Germans at the end of WW2 as a cross between a battle rifle and a submachinegun.

Speaking of the MP43... It fired a less powerful cartridge and had a lighter recoil as a result. However, Hitler, still thinking that troops needed a weapon capable of firing 2000 yards, ordered that production of the weapon not start. The German arms minister, however, knew the need of the new weapon, and changed the name to "Machine Pistol", which is what the Germans called their submachine guns like the US Thompson .45 cal. The trick worked and the weapon went into production at three factories and German troops all over the Eastern Front were clamouring for the new weapon. The whole affair was blown when a few divisional commanders asked Hitler at a conference when they would get the new weapon. Hitler was furious and ordered an investigation. Luckily for the men that had disobeyed the Fuehrer, the results of the investigation were so encouraging about the new weapon that Hitler changed his mind and announced that henceforward the weapon would be called "Sturmgewehr" or Assault Rifle. This was the world's first ever assault rifle." from diggerofhistory web site

A battle rifle utilizes a full power rifle cartridge capable of volley fire at over 1000 yards. A battle rifle does not need to be an auto to be called this.

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Does this mean my answer still counts?

Really, for a tactical sense (not do-dads hanging off tactical either), if I know the enemy has battle rifles, its going to up the ante a little bit in my book. I also think with the whole name thing, in the civilian world battle rifle probably sounds a bit better, as it brings to mind (for me at least), things like the M1 Garand leading the assault through Europe and the Pacific.

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Rob72

The ideal modern rifle for the civvie:Benelli R1 ...if they made 10 round mags.

Well, some family members in S. Texas might debate that point, but overall...

Tubby45

Defending?

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Caliber is simply the diameter of the round (a .22 is 0.22 inches across the bullet).

Cartridge is the actual loaded round, regardless of caliber. It is the cartridge that defines how powerful the load is.

There could exist a .50 caliber cartridge that only reaches 120fps.

Likewise, there could exist a .50 caliber cartrdge that reaches 4000fps.

The cartidge is what makes that difference in speed, even thought the caliber is the same.

I hope that helps (I probably made it sound confusing).

SuRpLuS

Not true the first select fire assault rifle was invented by a russian in 1917 it was select fire and used the 6.5x50SR Arisaka and was called Fedorov "Avtomat" very few were made but they were sold to the USSR. Long before the Germans even thought of it...

Long story short the "Idea" was originated from the russians almost 30 years prior...

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The term assault rifle is a translation of the German word Sturmgewehr (literally meaning "storm rifle"), "storm" used synonymous with assault. The name was coined by Adolf Hitler to describe the Maschinenpistole 44, subsequently re-christened Sturmgewehr 44, the firearm generally considered the first true assault rifle that served to popularize the concept.

The translation assault rifle gradually became the common term for similar firearms sharing the same technical definition as the StG 44. In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:

It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
It must be capable of selective fire;
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.
Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles despite frequently being considered as such. For example, semi-automatic-only rifles that share designs with assault rifles such as the AR-15 (which the M-16 rifle is based on) are not assault rifles, as they are not capable of switching to automatic fire and thus not selective fire. Belt-fed weapons (such as the M249 SAW) or rifles with fixed magazines are likewise not assault rifles because they do not have detachable box magazines.

The term "assault rifle" is often more loosely used for commercial or political reasons to include other types of arms, particularly arms that fall under a strict definition of the battle rifle, or semi-automatic variant of military rifles such as AR-15s

The US Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges."

A Battle Rifle is a full-size rifle designed for military use that fires a high-power rifle cartridge such as the U.S. .30-06 Springfield, the German 7.92x57mm IS, the Russian 7.62x54mmR, or the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge. While the term battle rifle is usually given to post-World War II selective-fire infantry service rifles such as the H&K G3, the FN FAL, the AR-10, or the M14, this term can also include older military bolt-action or semi-automatic rifles such as the Mosin Nagant or the M1 Garand.

The Battle Rifle's power and long-range accuracy are intended to engage targets at long distances, but this comes with a trade-off of length and weight that make it relatively cumbersome in close-quarter combat. Also, the recoil of a full-size cartridge makes most battle rifles difficult to control when using full-automatic fire, though a few designs have attempted to control this tendency.

The Fedorov Avtomat was an early self-loading battle rifle designed by Vladimir Grigoryevich Fedorov and made in Russia. A total of 3,200 Fedorov rifles were manufactured between 1915 and 1924 in the city of Kovrov. In 1919, after 500 had been built, production was increased. The weapon saw combat in World War I, the Russian Civil War, and later in the Winter War with Finland in 1940, when some were withdrawn from storage and issued to elite units of the Red Army. The Fedorov Avtomat is sometimes considered to be an early predecessor to the modern assault rifle, due to its relatively light weight compared to other automatic rifles of the time and selective-fire capabilities.

By early 1918, as a result of turmoil of the Russian Revolution and the subsequent civil war, production was finally stopped.


Thank you Wikipedia...

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Heck, MOST people could not hit a human sized target with an AK or SKS past two hundred yards at all. In my experience, these guns drop off significantly after 100 yards.

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The original POLICE "RIOT" configuration shotguns were shortened barrel with a "spreader choke" at the muzzle that made the shot pattern spread out horizontally. Just FYI.