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Old September 28th, 2009, 05:54 PM   #21
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Heck, MOST people could not hit a human sized target with an AK or SKS past two hundred yards at all. In my experience, these guns drop off significantly after 100 yards.
My experience tends to be much different.. I own a wasr 10 (yes a wasr... I dont get what all the fuss is about on them...) and I can hit targets well beyond 175 yards away that are 4 by 2 1/2 feet.. Nearly every ones a hit...
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Old September 28th, 2009, 06:10 PM   #22
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My experience tends to be much different.. I own a wasr 10 (yes a wasr... I dont get what all the fuss is about on them...) and I can hit targets well beyond 175 yards away that are 4 by 2 1/2 feet.. Nearly every ones a hit...
Sure you could hit a target every time at that distance. You just need to be aware and aim two feet high.

You must be a better shot then the AK expert in this video, he even is shooting indoors on a bench rest. At two hundred yards, he only hits the paper one time. He only hits the lower left corner of the paper, it would not of hit a human target at all.

By the way, this by no means is an AK .vs AR post. I have my own opinion on both rifles their inherent advantages.

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Old September 30th, 2009, 01:13 PM   #23
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Sure you could hit a target every time at that distance. You just need to be aware and aim two feet high.

You must be a better shot then the AK expert in this video, he even is shooting indoors on a bench rest. At two hundred yards, he only hits the paper one time. He only hits the lower left corner of the paper, it would not of hit a human target at all.

By the way, this by no means is an AK .vs AR post. I have my own opinion on both rifles their inherent advantages.

AK 47 vs M16 | SplodeTV.com
Welp you've gotta realize that a TV show on american networks can tend to be byass... (the american weapons are usually shown as higher quality weapons for the better trained soldier [ahh propeganda]) The truth is that I can hit a human sized target up to 200 yards fairly consistantly, although beyond that point becomes fairly difficult... The sight on it's own helps adjust for the drop... Plus the guy wasn't an expert he was the host...
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Old September 30th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #24
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Old September 30th, 2009, 05:42 PM   #25
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I consider my AR-10 (308) a battle rifle compared to my friends M-16/M-4 semiautomatic assault rifles. Theirs are better for close range work, even for home protection, while mine is more for long range work and shooting through significant cover (like brick walls). Two different arms for two different needs. Would I like to be shot at by either at 200 yards? Nope. At 600 yards or more I'd be much more worried about someone with an AR-10, Socom, FAL, or any other battle rifle over any M16, M4 or AKS semiautomatic. Still wouldn't press my luck though. All three rounds are good and can get the job done. All in what floats your boat and what your intended need is IMHO. Probably could use at least one of each in my household, if the wife would go for it.
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Old September 30th, 2009, 07:18 PM   #26
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Probably could use at least one of each in my household, if the wife would go for it.
And that is the kicker isn't it? I would do the same if I had the money and the wife wouldn't freak seeing those evil black rifles in the house.
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Old October 1st, 2009, 01:15 AM   #27
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Welp you've gotta realize that a TV show on american networks can tend to be byass... (the american weapons are usually shown as higher quality weapons for the better trained soldier [ahh propeganda]) The truth is that I can hit a human sized target up to 200 yards fairly consistantly, although beyond that point becomes fairly difficult... The sight on it's own helps adjust for the drop... Plus the guy wasn't an expert he was the host...
SuRpLus it's a fact, you must not have watched the video. The video sure showed the penetration power of the AK over the AR. What was bias about that? I am not here to convince you, one way or the other, and if you think the video is wrong then so be it. If you honestly think an AK is just as accurate then you are misinformed.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 12:14 AM   #28
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SuRpLus it's a fact, you must not have watched the video. The video sure showed the penetration power of the AK over the AR. What was bias about that? I am not here to convince you, one way or the other, and if you think the video is wrong then so be it. If you honestly think an AK is just as accurate then you are misinformed.
I never said an ak-47 is just as accurate I just know I can hit that target a hell of alot better than that guy [I've shot a 4 by 3 target consistantly at 190 yards] ...(with an ar-15 I could hit a target at a further range around 250-300..)

What I said was that it can be byass in the way that they want to say "the better trained soldier is better equipped with this" the propeganda is that they want to show a more proffesional feel to the m-16 while keeping us thinking the ak-47 is more for a militia sort of people...

Thanx for disregarding everything though... Way to pay attention sport...
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Well, there are "AKs" that are the best of all worlds with regard to extreme functional reliability, accuracy, & range.
These days it takes a pretty heavy cash outlay to own one though.


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Old October 2nd, 2009, 12:18 PM   #30
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Nice mods on that rifle QK.
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